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00:02:13 We call
00:02:14 the Internet the information superhighway.
00:02:21 Just think, just Al Gore did that
00:02:26 very late at the already.
00:02:36 But I hear that from your phone.
00:02:46 I think the song may have started
00:02:48 over. Can.
00:02:58 I'm Gary.
00:02:59 There's no camera way.
00:03:02 I got to check this stuff.
00:03:05 Activate here.
00:03:06 I'll help you solve it.
00:03:08 Activate.
00:03:09 Welcome to Fladge Rants.
00:03:10 Activate Live where Fladge Rants Live.
00:03:13 I'm Gary.
00:03:15 I say that every time.
00:03:16 What I don't usually say is like comment and follow.
00:03:22 But we need you to do that because we're changing formats.
00:03:26 I got a new job and it's second shift
00:03:29 and that happens to overlap it in my pocket.
00:03:35 Oh, to me, my phone.
00:03:38 Okay.
00:03:39 Today's topic is information
00:03:44 How to talk while you're hearing yourself, isn't it?
00:03:45 Yeah, I've heard that it's the dawning of the Age of Aquarius.
00:03:49 I've also heard that it's the information age.
00:03:52 Which is it? What age is it?
00:03:55 I don't even know my age anymore.
00:03:58 So confused.
00:03:59 So what is information?
00:04:02 It. It's not knowledge, It's not wisdom.
00:04:06 I think those are subsets of information.
00:04:10 Let's see. It's not facts.
00:04:11 It's not truth.
00:04:13 Also subsets.
00:04:15 I think of information.
00:04:18 Here's how I heard it described the space time.
00:04:22 Those two things go hand in hand.
00:04:24 There's
00:04:27 matter, energy.
00:04:29 Those those two things are paired.
00:04:31 Then everything else,
00:04:35 every other part of reality
00:04:37 is what I would call information.
00:04:40 But like I said, it doesn't have to be true.
00:04:43 It doesn't have to
00:04:45 pertain to anything.
00:04:48 But it is a little more helpful if it is or does.
00:04:53 That's it. That wraps it up.
00:04:55 Okay.
00:04:56 Then amendment.
00:04:59 So really, I did get another job
00:05:01 and this is the last time I think we'll be able to do this this format.
00:05:06 So it's an interesting thing.
00:05:08 My power just died
00:05:11 on my monitor.
00:05:13 What?
00:05:14 I died.
00:05:16 I don't need the money.
00:05:18 No, I don't. Never did.
00:05:19 That's just there for your benefit.
00:05:21 So you can see what I see. Yeah.
00:05:23 You see what I see?
00:05:24 Do you see what I see?
00:05:27 My mike working.
00:05:28 Yeah, I hear you.
00:05:29 Yeah. Okay. Absolutely.
00:05:32 Um, so back.
00:05:33 Back at it.
00:05:35 So I've established that information does not mean facts
00:05:40 or wisdom or knowledge.
00:05:44 I think
00:05:47 looking is to seeing
00:05:50 what information is the knowledge.
00:05:54 And I'll say that again, seeing is the looking,
00:05:57 what knowledge is the information?
00:05:59 Kind of like that.
00:06:04 Uh, seeing is the knowing what information is the knowledge.
00:06:07 I've goofed it all up.
00:06:08 That type.
00:06:12 But information is
00:06:18 our experience
00:06:19 is a complicated
00:06:24 algorithm amalgam
00:06:26 of all sorts of stuff,
00:06:29 but it seems to be ordered. Um,
00:06:32 now information theory is a mathematical study
00:06:35 of how to store and transmit communications, telecommunication,
00:06:40 telecommunications thing.
00:06:41 Most of it's the mathematics of computers and how to use them
00:06:46 to transmit information, store information and
00:06:50 oh, and it is, it's very useful study.
00:06:54 It tells us, you know, what what bandwidth we need
00:06:57 and how many bits we need.
00:07:00 First for storage and for
00:07:03 transmission.
00:07:07 I think the smallest we could go
00:07:10 is a bit per atom.
00:07:13 If you if you have like
00:07:15 that's better to two different hydrogen atoms
00:07:19 and you line them up in such a way
00:07:22 that they speak the binary code.
00:07:25 There are other codes in binary.
00:07:27 I mean, the language I'm using right now is a code that we use to
00:07:32 communicate information.
00:07:35 So this is not to be the what I'm communicating right now
00:07:38 is not to be mistaken for the truth or wisdom or knowledge,
00:07:42 but it is, however, information.
00:07:46 And that's the only that's the key
00:07:48 ingredient to the universe.
00:07:53 Let's put it this way.
00:07:54 Until the industrial age,
00:07:57 we didn't think that much of information,
00:08:00 but as of then
00:08:03 and moving into now, we've realized not only that it's important,
00:08:07 but possibly fundamental,
00:08:11 philosophically fundamental, if not more
00:08:14 so mathematically fundamental.
00:08:18 A great example of this from the industrial era
00:08:20 was one of the first most complicated machines man has ever made was the loom.
00:08:27 And we would weave, you know, fancy silk
00:08:31 tapestries and it was labor intensive and two men
00:08:35 working their asses off would get an inch done in a day.
00:08:39 Um, dude came up with this punch card system and the holes in the punch
00:08:45 cards as you fed into the machine would either allow or disallow
00:08:50 the color
00:08:51 corresponding with that line of
00:08:54 of the machine to either
00:08:58 so or not go through the whole so.
00:09:02 And that created a pattern.
00:09:04 And the pattern isn't what the punch card pattern is.
00:09:07 It creates a it's similar,
00:09:11 obviously it's created by that that pattern.
00:09:14 But that punch card thing ended up being
00:09:17 the first working computer
00:09:20 the way that computers were made.
00:09:23 I think that's fascinating
00:09:25 that the punch cards started with a loom, simple loom
00:09:29 or I, I want to call it sewing, but I guess it's weaving.
00:09:33 I don't know. Is that where aluminum comes from?
00:09:36 No, it's called aluminum for the audience.
00:09:39 I play a retired.
00:09:40 I'm really not.
00:09:41 Oh, thank you.
00:09:44 Not that there's anything wrong with being retarded.
00:09:46 Oh, well, here in America, we think we came up with everything
00:09:49 but everywhere else in the world calls ALU, aluminum, aluminum, aluminum.
00:09:55 And since it was discovered in France,
00:09:58 or they still call it aluminum, I guess they're right.
00:10:02 Right, right.
00:10:07 They derail.
00:10:08 Well, I good the
00:10:12 so most most of what we think of
00:10:14 is of information is that that binary code
00:10:18 and we
00:10:21 I think a couple of weeks ago we were talking about that
00:10:24 that thing
00:10:27 we sent out into space with some Beatles song
00:10:30 and some works of art and a bunch of binary code too,
00:10:36 so that if intelligent life in other parts of the galaxy we find it,
00:10:42 they could decode it and figure out some information about, well, well,
00:10:46 what's going on here?
00:10:48 I think they had some genetic information about us.
00:10:51 And basically, you know, the Encyclopedia of Earth
00:10:58 Information is
00:11:01 here's the coolest code DNA.
00:11:04 It copies, it replicates, it tells what proteins
00:11:08 tells us, what catalysts to be made.
00:11:11 I think one of the coolest genetic information
00:11:16 like subcategories is
00:11:19 how birds instinctively know
00:11:22 how to build a nest like a robin's nest.
00:11:25 Looks like a robin's nest, looks like a robin's nest.
00:11:29 Regardless of the materials available, it's
00:11:32 roughly the same dimensions
00:11:35 size, shape and building technique,
00:11:38 even if they're using different kinds of available materials.
00:11:42 It's interesting that that is ingrained
00:11:46 as as a genetic
00:11:49 piggyback,
00:11:51 along with how to build the the structure, the body of the the bird itself.
00:11:56 It also comes with an instinct to build a nest
00:12:00 and all sorts of critters have this.
00:12:02 I mean, the beaver's a great example because they're incredible.
00:12:06 They, they build a dam
00:12:09 which changes the waterway so they have more water to live in.
00:12:13 To put their den in the den has a always has an opening
00:12:17 under the water so they're safe and protected.
00:12:20 And this is has to be stored in their genetics.
00:12:25 I think they've done a test where where a couple of beavers were shown
00:12:29 by their parents how to make lodges and dams, and a couple were left
00:12:34 without their parents and they still still ended up with the same kind of deal.
00:12:39 So that's neat way to transmit information.
00:12:43 I like that information doesn't have to be real.
00:12:46 Puff the Magic Dragon that stories
00:12:49 the fiction, but information nonetheless.
00:12:52 Imagination.
00:12:54 Mm hmm.
00:12:56 And you might go to imagination.
00:12:59 Imagination land.
00:13:00 O Your example of chicken and egg is the best example.
00:13:04 And yes, of course, that's where I'm going.
00:13:06 The egg is the information.
00:13:08 The chicken is the end result.
00:13:11 You sure about that?
00:13:13 I think so.
00:13:14 I think it's the other way around.
00:13:16 The chickens, the information.
00:13:20 You're playing an idiot for me again,
00:13:22 Archie Egg is the result.
00:13:25 Your result? Which chickens?
00:13:27 The result? We have to decide which comes first.
00:13:28 First our wire to cross the road.
00:13:31 Why did the egg cross the road?
00:13:34 Because it was safety pin to a punk rocker.
00:13:38 I like it.
00:13:40 I may have backed backwards That Yeah.
00:13:44 Information me.
00:13:45 Some come from the words ice poor, but I was.
00:13:50 Oh, holy crap.
00:13:52 Okay, I'm just going to get right to it.
00:13:56 I love stone tape theory.
00:13:58 You going to say black people? For sure.
00:14:00 That's some neat information.
00:14:02 I don't know if I can subscribe to it.
00:14:06 The anarchy theory.
00:14:07 If we go back to
00:14:08 what is stone mark theory just for people that don't pay attention?
00:14:11 Oh yeah, mushrooms control the world.
00:14:14 That sums it up.
00:14:15 That was it. Yeah.
00:14:17 Oh, I remember.
00:14:18 Bacteria, mushrooms, that sort of thing.
00:14:20 Oh, no, no, just fungus.
00:14:21 Mushroom fungus is the.
00:14:24 We're the marionettes and the fungus.
00:14:27 Is that all the strings?
00:14:30 It's interesting.
00:14:31 It's got some legs, but
00:14:33 I want to talk.
00:14:34 And anarchy theory.
00:14:35 I touched on the work of Zacharias,
00:14:38 and now his translation is
00:14:42 an English translation from
00:14:45 Mesopotamian.
00:14:46 Sanskrit,
00:14:49 the Sumerian language.
00:14:52 And it talks about the eternal
00:14:56 coming to earth, to mine for gold,
00:15:00 to put it in particular form as a reflective material,
00:15:04 to put it into their atmosphere to protect them from the sun's radiation.
00:15:10 That's inky.
00:15:10 And then little.
00:15:11 And then Anki comes up and decides he doesn't want to do the work himself.
00:15:17 And they consider themselves above that
00:15:21 their nobility, for heaven's sakes.
00:15:23 And so they make a slave race
00:15:26 by combining their genetics with the primates of this planet.
00:15:32 And it does explain to me why we are so intelligent,
00:15:37 because the evolutionary reason.
00:15:40 Did you know that Charles Darwin's assistant Wallace had the same hang up?
00:15:44 There is no reason for us to be able to
00:15:51 do crazy.
00:15:52 The crazy math calculus for survival of the fittest, it's
00:15:57 not evolutionarily necessary.
00:16:00 So there's something else going on with the intelligence of mankind, of humans,
00:16:06 and we do have information
00:16:11 that could shed some light on this.
00:16:14 People think the work of Zacharias Citron is nonsense, just gobbledygook.
00:16:19 I just like Stone Date theory.
00:16:21 I think it's got some legs.
00:16:23 Maybe it's a little of this.
00:16:24 Maybe it's a little of that.
00:16:26 It doesn't explain where intelligent life originated
00:16:29 because it just pushes the problem out way out of our reach.
00:16:34 But it does explain why we have 23 chromosomes.
00:16:37 And so the 24 the chimpanzees have, because the first two are fuzed together,
00:16:41 we see that
00:16:42 we can look at it and see that it is because it takes an electron microscope,
00:16:47 because we can't see
00:16:48 stuff that that's that's that small to perspective.
00:16:52 It's a scale thing.
00:16:56 So we're getting a lot of misinformation.
00:16:59 Um, fake news.
00:17:03 That is an adorable monkey.
00:17:04 Look at that orangutan.
00:17:08 So do orangutans have one more chromosome?
00:17:10 Yeah, the. For all other primates?
00:17:13 No. All the great apes.
00:17:15 Great apes are
00:17:19 all. Look, humans and the other great apes.
00:17:22 Humans are the other great apes.
00:17:23 This Internet thing is fascinating. It's full of information.
00:17:26 Yeah, it is.
00:17:27 It's that's I think they call it the information superhighway.
00:17:31 Oh, is that where that comes from?
00:17:32 I think that's where that comes from.
00:17:33 Full of information.
00:17:34 You can just drive right along.
00:17:37 So there's a key part that I want to point
00:17:39 on to the difference between knowledge and information.
00:17:43 Oh, yeah?
00:17:44 What is that?
00:17:44 What you said that.
00:17:45 But kind of to zip past it. Yeah.
00:17:48 What does that mean to you? What is the difference between
00:17:52 information and knowledge?
00:17:56 That's the difference between looking and seeing.
00:17:58 One eye. One word could be English.
00:18:01 Specifically true about experience.
00:18:06 I like truth, but tell me what experience fits better.
00:18:09 Well, if you look at knowledge, I can wait.
00:18:13 I you know, I learn from you because as I was explaining myself,
00:18:17 I could see something.
00:18:18 But if I don't understand it, it doesn't know experiencing it isn't enough.
00:18:22 Right?
00:18:23 So you have to you have to start with experience, right?
00:18:28 But to have the information, be able to gain the knowledge, Right.
00:18:31 Yeah.
00:18:32 The also have to be able to read it.
00:18:33 Translation. Right.
00:18:35 You have to be able to
00:18:38 study it.
00:18:39 Okay. Interpret it. Yeah.
00:18:41 Decipher it.
00:18:42 Yeah. Here's an interesting fact.
00:18:44 When I look at the sun, it looks white or yellow, sometimes orange or red.
00:18:50 The vast
00:18:52 majority of the photons emitted by the sun are green.
00:18:55 In the green spectrum, our sun is green.
00:18:59 That is not my experience, not mine either.
00:19:02 Because it's mixed with blue.
00:19:05 We the blue is
00:19:07 what renders out because it's in the lower end of the,
00:19:11 you know, the larger wavelengths, everything else gets blocked out.
00:19:14 Right.
00:19:14 And that's why the water in the sky look blue.
00:19:17 Well, the water because well, the reflection from the sky.
00:19:20 But that's why the sky looks blue.
00:19:22 What is blue, as far as information, that's not anything given from experience.
00:19:25 Our brain just makes that information.
00:19:27 It's what we call blue.
00:19:29 But there is a thing that we call blue.
00:19:31 There is a there is.
00:19:33 But our brain, I mean, there is an awareness.
00:19:36 People only have a color called like Earth.
00:19:39 And we got that. There's two colors.
00:19:41 And when you show them green, blue and brown, the earth, earth and earth, earth,
00:19:45 they of they're not colorblind.
00:19:46 They literally their brain has not drawn that extra path to create those colors.
00:19:51 I'd be so bold is that everything we watch is everything
00:19:53 we see is just like watching a TV show that our brain create in.
00:19:56 When you touch something, by the time your brain draws, it's long gone, right?
00:20:00 And that's why I was making a distinction between
00:20:03 information and knowledge,
00:20:05 because that's that really is the difference.
00:20:07 Like we were getting, we're getting but just getting bombarded with information.
00:20:12 But, but even the color of the sun is wrong.
00:20:16 That's just very disheartening, I think.
00:20:19 How am I supposed to believe anything if I can't even believe?
00:20:21 I think chloroplasts are green because the lights, the light from
00:20:25 the sun is primarily green or plastic as what bright bursts of sun
00:20:29 chloroplasts are the active ingredient in chlorophyl o photosynthesis.
00:20:35 Hey, there you go.
00:20:36 Okay, boy, that's a big boy word.
00:20:38 I know what I'm talking about.
00:20:39 Absolutely.
00:20:39 I mean, I don't know what you're talking about. No, Never die.
00:20:42 No one ever does.
00:20:43 What about the lesser apes?
00:20:45 But if you want this show to continue, comment, follow, and like, please.
00:20:51 I've never asked for that before, and everyone always does on every podcast. But
00:20:57 this one, I want to see if there's any interest in us going forward
00:21:00 because we're not going to be doing this at 6:00 on Mondays anymore.
00:21:03 This is our 11th episode and I started a new job tomorrow.
00:21:07 Tomorrow? That's exciting.
00:21:10 Well, I took a drug test today and
00:21:14 and the information was sent back to
00:21:17 my potential employer and
00:21:21 and I didn't study any drugs.
00:21:24 So then you pass the test anyway?
00:21:26 I pass the test anyway.
00:21:27 Do you ever worry that a future employer or a current employer or former employer
00:21:31 might see this and hear some things you say and might affect?
00:21:35 Oh, no, no.
00:21:37 This is this is how I say what I what I think.
00:21:40 I appreciate you.
00:21:41 I don't your employer should too.
00:21:43 I they don't know what they got.
00:21:45 Right. Exactly.
00:21:46 That's the only nice thing I'm ever going to say about you. So.
00:21:48 Okay, well, thanks.
00:21:50 I know I'll say some inappropriate stuff because I like to.
00:21:52 Okay, here's. Let's go. Inappropriate.
00:21:55 I was driving through Hamtramck today
00:21:56 and I was looking around at all the little brown people.
00:21:59 I was thinking, I can I take a couple of these home with me?
00:22:03 They're adorable.
00:22:04 I mean, from my perspective, I'm six foot two, £200.
00:22:08 I've got size 13 shoes.
00:22:11 I'm a big dude.
00:22:13 I'm not even huge.
00:22:13 But I felt like a giant in the land of the balloon puss.
00:22:17 I think they're absolutely adorable.
00:22:19 The last time I noticed that was on a cruise ship
00:22:22 and all the staff is a little brown people.
00:22:24 A buddy of mine moved to Mexico when we were in, like, middle school.
00:22:27 Yeah.
00:22:27 His family, who work for General Motors, got relocated.
00:22:30 He's six foot tall America.
00:22:32 He went there.
00:22:32 He was like,
00:22:34 I forgot the word that the young people use now for a really hot,
00:22:36 you know, attractive.
00:22:38 He wasn't used to that because he was kind of a dork here, you know?
00:22:41 Right. Sorry, Steve.
00:22:43 You're cool to me.
00:22:44 Steve. Yeah.
00:22:46 Oh, I was head and shoulders over everybody.
00:22:48 The move looking at the the Mona Lisa LoJack and you can Hamtramck, Australia.
00:22:53 You know what we were talking about that on the podcast.
00:22:55 Sometimes I have a tendency to think about what I say next. Yeah.
00:22:58 So I walk over what you say, and I have no idea what you said.
00:23:00 I keep right on talking and I yeah, I apologize sincerely for that.
00:23:03 We both do that and I don't apologize.
00:23:06 What were you saying?
00:23:07 I have no idea.
00:23:08 I'm so shoulders taller than most people on most continents.
00:23:11 You were in Hamtramck.
00:23:12 I was today
00:23:16 I recant my I was going to go with a Segway, but I decided not to.
00:23:20 Also the the Mexicans that cut my lawn.
00:23:23 Whoa, whoa. There, there they are. Mexican.
00:23:26 There's not.
00:23:27 There's Polish people in Hamtramck, not Mexicans.
00:23:29 No, no, no.
00:23:30 But back when I lived in Sterling Heights, there was a team of Mexicans
00:23:33 that would come in at 4 a.m.
00:23:35 and turn on their stupid lawnmowers and wake me up.
00:23:38 Oh, I'll tell you what.
00:23:39 Now, one of them came up to my shoulder
00:23:43 like a whole team of them.
00:23:45 I don't know
00:23:47 how that happened.
00:23:48 Two of them together equal one. Gary.
00:23:50 No, we're all equal.
00:23:55 Speaking of the primates.
00:23:58 Oh, are we?
00:24:00 Why don't I have a prehensile tail?
00:24:04 I want a prehensile.
00:24:05 I have no information or evidence that says you do or don't.
00:24:08 I think I've got the information.
00:24:10 It's just turned off.
00:24:11 Am I like they talk about junk DNA.
00:24:13 I think, you know, those people that are born with rows of nipples, chunky
00:24:18 and yeah, I just think that's just so egotistical.
00:24:22 This is we don't understand it.
00:24:23 It must be junk.
00:24:24 If I could turn on the right chromosome, can I grow wings?
00:24:28 I want to know. I.
00:24:31 I don't know.
00:24:32 But if the information's already there.
00:24:34 Yeah, I think manipulation is unlimited.
00:24:37 If with the right tools and knowledge, I think you can manipulate
00:24:39 any information. Oh, with CRISPR until I get it right.
00:24:42 I was thinking like hacking and stuff, like, Oh, yeah,
00:24:47 kind of like with magic thinking,
00:24:48 you know, with what we're talking about with biotech indistinguishable from magic.
00:24:52 What's that quote of?
00:24:54 Yeah. See, Clark?
00:24:55 No, he's a sufficiently high.
00:24:57 Technology is indistinguishable from that.
00:24:59 So I think that junk DNA is just similar to that.
00:25:01 Just because we haven't interpreted it yet. Right.
00:25:03 Probably is the key in the meaning to life.
00:25:05 But man, because we're so egotistical at this point, is just calling it junk DNA.
00:25:09 Right? Right. We just don't understand. We don't understand it.
00:25:12 So it's not important.
00:25:13 Well, it's more information that's not even true.
00:25:16 Like we only use 10% of our brains.
00:25:18 There's all sorts of stuff like that. Yeah, that's so not true, right?
00:25:21 We use 100% of our brain capacity when we're asleep.
00:25:24 Your brain is so freaking efficient, Right?
00:25:26 And we don't need that for survival of the fittest.
00:25:29 That's what I'm talking about.
00:25:30 I think some. Something fishy, something is amiss here.
00:25:34 I. I think we're used to it.
00:25:37 Disclosure is information.
00:25:39 And you know, those tick the tic tac videos, not tic tac videos.
00:25:44 And tic tac. It's a UFO video.
00:25:47 I have a pretty good authority that is man made.
00:25:51 Oh, the tic tac, are they.
00:25:53 Yeah. Reverse engineered.
00:25:56 But they look like little tic tacs.
00:25:57 But they fly crazy angels all of a sudden.
00:26:01 But the the propulsion
00:26:05 system is as of yet unknown but.
00:26:10 Mm mm.
00:26:13 I get it.
00:26:14 This is it. Yeah. That's it.
00:26:15 That's the tic tac video.
00:26:21 Am I going to look at this?
00:26:22 I've never seen this. Am I going to look at it?
00:26:23 Because as a photographer and technical person just know that it's
00:26:27 just reflection, lights from street lights or something from down on the ground.
00:26:30 No, not on this one.
00:26:32 But it's looks amazing so far.
00:26:34 I will tell you, it's it's man made.
00:26:37 I think something might be blocking.
00:26:39 Lockheed Martin is keeping a lot of things secret.
00:26:41 I think these were made by Lockheed.
00:26:46 I think they have some technologies that they're just not sharing.
00:26:48 My Internet is very, very picky.
00:26:50 But I mean, they'll sell it for to a price, but to both sides
00:26:53 of any conflict.
00:26:55 No. Yeah.
00:27:02 Riveting so far.
00:27:03 Yeah, no kidding.
00:27:06 Here's one good argument against the
00:27:09 the UFO footage is as far as the
00:27:14 the technical capabilities of our our cameras get better and better.
00:27:18 The the quality of these
00:27:22 UAP videos stay the same or get yeah it's like,
00:27:27 well, why is it still hard to to make out
00:27:29 And that's why if it's too hard to believe like Bigfoot sighting
00:27:33 not to go off off topic No I want bigfoot to be our topic under percent.
00:27:38 We would have high definition footage of anything nowadays with trail cams.
00:27:43 Yeah.
00:27:43 Or is the entities were seeking UFOs and bigfoot.
00:27:47 Are they just so intelligent that they're not captured?
00:27:49 You know, they, like, they can
00:27:52 wave their hand and.
00:27:53 Oh, yeah.
00:27:54 Oh, high tech sasquatch, no UFO is more or less the waving, not the.
00:27:58 Oh, shoot. Just lucky, I guess.
00:28:01 Did you know that they stopped having Loch
00:28:05 Ness monster sightings like that was just in the news.
00:28:08 Wow. Hang on. What?
00:28:09 What are we watching here?
00:28:11 This is the actual video.
00:28:12 Yeah, we're looking at this here.
00:28:14 Yeah, but watch. Watch a move.
00:28:17 It's just hovering there,
00:28:22 and then it really, really boogies.
00:28:26 See, it's Lockheed-Martin, reverse engineered craft.
00:28:30 It's using anti-gravity propulsion or like, some electromagnet,
00:28:34 clearly oblong shape.
00:28:36 It's it looks like a tic tac.
00:28:38 But same you're seeing the overlay on this 24 hour video that makes it
00:28:43 look higher def but the video behind the overlay is very poor def.
00:28:47 Yeah, poor definition
00:28:51 definitions are information like
00:28:55 this is this is retarded.
00:29:06 Yeah.
00:29:06 We're just looking at our radar.
00:29:10 It's a net and the camera lens for all
00:29:12 I know
00:29:15 there goes.
00:29:17 Yeah, but like, so is the camera stationary?
00:29:19 Do we know this camera stationary or.
00:29:20 No, it's on the Nimitz. It's on a moving boat.
00:29:22 All right, so if that boat moved an inch
00:29:26 the camera, if that thing is, it's going to look like it moves real fast.
00:29:29 What if the camera moved a little bit and that moved a little bit?
00:29:32 Too many unknowns.
00:29:33 That's that's ridiculous to even waste any resource or time on that upgrade.
00:29:38 And it's not like I said, I don't even think it's
00:29:41 I think it's from this this world could have been one thing.
00:29:44 It is manmade. Yeah. Yeah I agree.
00:29:48 And they're going to have 90% of UFO sightings are hoaxes or
00:29:53 or made up or Photoshop.
00:29:58 I believe they have a roomful of people trying to hide that stuff.
00:30:01 So when the public comes up with a reason, they call them the men in black,
00:30:04 like, yes, of course.
00:30:06 Well, of course it's out of this world, not us.
00:30:08 But with that.
00:30:09 And yeah,
00:30:10 and we're supposed to look ridiculous for saying that any of them are real.
00:30:13 And we have more than one player, too.
00:30:15 It's not just the United States military, right?
00:30:18 A whole world's worth of militaries that are doing secret crap up there.
00:30:21 That. All right.
00:30:22 You said in one of these wonderful podcast that we're like 50 years behind What
00:30:26 what's what's really at least
00:30:30 absurd?
00:30:31 We don't know anything yet. We know everything.
00:30:33 We have everything at our fingertips. We still know nothing.
00:30:35 What's explain that I zero point
00:30:38 energy would change the entire paradigm.
00:30:43 So what?
00:30:44 You went through this in your four second monologue rant?
00:30:48 I ran through everything.
00:30:49 What's the oldest history of history as well?
00:30:51 Is history considered information?
00:30:53 Yes, of course. Recorded history, of course.
00:30:55 What about the Big Bang?
00:30:56 Nothing was recording that does that contain information?
00:30:58 Yes. DNA,
00:31:01 electrical patterns.
00:31:02 Well, you look at the cosmic microwave background.
00:31:07 So anything definable?
00:31:08 CMB Is anything definable, considered information? Yes.
00:31:12 Even something indefinable
00:31:15 from imagination to see.
00:31:17 So that's pretty vague. Yes.
00:31:19 I decided to cover information, covers absolutely everything.
00:31:24 I always like to bite off more than I can chew.
00:31:26 Information is not just everything that exists.
00:31:29 It's also everything that doesn't exist.
00:31:31 It's really literally everything.
00:31:34 Today I chose everything and everything else.
00:31:37 So my question of what
00:31:39 the oldest information is, we can't just go with written history.
00:31:42 No, it's older uniform.
00:31:44 Yeah.
00:31:45 How do you say that?
00:31:46 Yeah. Q Now four. That's it.
00:31:48 There's three ways to say that I believe. Yeah.
00:31:50 Cuneiform. Cuneiform. I learned that on sledge rams.
00:31:54 So I bet you they say the same thing, right?
00:31:56 Oh, wait, no, this is. Oh, this is 80.
00:32:00 We didn't talk.
00:32:00 Why don't we talk about the Chinese oracle Bones?
00:32:02 Tell me about Chinese Oracle Bones.
00:32:04 You're not familiar? No, Tell me more either.
00:32:07 Is that.
00:32:08 Is that when you roll the bones and it tells you your your future
00:32:11 ancient inscriptions that date around the late second millennia B.C.
00:32:15 e late second millennia.
00:32:17 Oh, God.
00:32:18 I have no idea when that is true.
00:32:20 Well, 4000 years ago.
00:32:22 Is that better or is it one 1600?
00:32:25 Oh, wait, no, you're.
00:32:27 Oh, no, they're you.
00:32:28 They were used.
00:32:29 They were used then. So four and a half.
00:32:32 All right, let's just close it.
00:32:33 Years ago, I'm going to cut to the chase.
00:32:38 There's beer.
00:32:40 That's how you make beer.
00:32:42 Your payslip.
00:32:43 It'd be better if it would have said beer.
00:32:44 Pay sip.
00:32:45 Hmm. All right.
00:32:47 I'll drink to that
00:32:49 perfect billboard.
00:32:50 Uh hmm.
00:32:53 If I followed recipes better, my cookies would turn out better.
00:32:56 But I misread the information.
00:33:00 I don't. I misuse the information.
00:33:01 I've got good enough recipes.
00:33:03 Is that knowledge or information?
00:33:05 It's information.
00:33:08 Oh. Have you ever tried doing or you're you or You're right,
00:33:12 because all knowledge is information, but not all information is knowledge.
00:33:15 Look at the the
00:33:17 metric units of a cookie
00:33:20 recipe versus the imperial units.
00:33:23 Measurements of a recipe.
00:33:25 They do not equate.
00:33:27 It's even amounts of this and even amounts of this.
00:33:30 They they are not going to turn out the same.
00:33:32 You mean in proportion? They're not going to be the same.
00:33:34 Proportions of anything can be all screwed up in some, not always even amounts.
00:33:39 Two cups of flour, 500 milliliters of water.
00:33:43 You know, it's like, oh, you don't
00:33:44 you're not going like decimals and fractions to make it the make.
00:33:47 No, no, they don't.
00:33:49 I hate to break this to you, but you're probably making a little more,
00:33:52 a little less of your portions feel the same relative.
00:33:58 Not exactly.
00:34:00 I if you ever talk, I mess things up, cook bad recipes, ruin food to them.
00:34:04 You just got to take a little dash of this and a little pinch of that.
00:34:07 I know I tried to do it by feel
00:34:08 and I've got no sense of it, so I screwed up every time.
00:34:13 I promise
00:34:16 I solemnly swear I will mess up any recipe.
00:34:19 I just don't measure veg cooks for next week flat.
00:34:25 There's no next week. What are we going to do?
00:34:27 It's up to you. What?
00:34:28 So I'm still confused. What is your shift?
00:34:31 I work from noon to eight
00:34:34 weekdays.
00:34:36 So your basic banker hours.
00:34:38 So what shifted 3 hours wrong with having an eight or 9:00
00:34:41 is that there's nothing wrong with that. That'd be fantastic.
00:34:43 There's more people watching, I'll tell you that. Yeah.
00:34:46 I mean, I'd be driving home if we did it a day. And you.
00:34:49 You don't work till noon, right?
00:34:51 You just say, Yeah, early morning.
00:34:53 You're still
00:34:53 you're obviously going to be an early morning person
00:34:55 if you've been getting up for 30, 40 years. Yeah.
00:34:58 You might not want to have it at like midnight or two in the morning.
00:35:01 No, absolutely not. So.
00:35:03 Or drop the word live and you're not going to come here.
00:35:06 We're going to do it. Remote.
00:35:07 Remote? Yeah.
00:35:08 So. But no, but you're going to drive out there.
00:35:11 We I would do that once in a while, but not every week.
00:35:13 I don't mind the 70 mile drive.
00:35:15 It's 70 miles there in back. Correct.
00:35:19 And I
00:35:20 mean, it's not like the Cumberland Trail or whatever.
00:35:23 The Oregon Trail, you know,
00:35:24 where people took you know, we lost family members on the way.
00:35:27 So. Oh,
00:35:30 you know, those that kind that kind of traveling.
00:35:31 Yeah.
00:35:33 We should do covered wagon, horse and buggy spoiled.
00:35:35 Nowadays
00:35:36 there's a time and a target every, what, 5 minutes away from everywhere.
00:35:40 Yeah.
00:35:41 What's the closest out you live in that in the wilderness, right.
00:35:43 Yeah.
00:35:44 What's the closest civilization to you?
00:35:46 I've got a party saw.
00:35:47 It takes 6 minutes to drive to it, and they pretty close at like 6 p.m..
00:35:51 It's burble party sort of.
00:35:52 They're up until ten oh oh. That's nice.
00:35:54 And they carry my stuff and they know what I want.
00:35:57 A fart. You got to go to hit a Walmart or Myer.
00:35:59 Oh goodness.
00:36:00 Then you're talking Richmond, Romeo.
00:36:03 They both have Kroger's
00:36:05 ticket to a Walmart. Wow.
00:36:09 I don't think that's too bad either.
00:36:10 Port Huron I guess half hour.
00:36:15 But the other ones I've talked to are 20 minutes.
00:36:18 So what's the big what you got a freezer?
00:36:21 I've got three.
00:36:22 Yeah. I would imagine you're going to hunt.
00:36:24 You going to Philly freezers with your land food.
00:36:26 Are you going to.
00:36:27 I don't heard the little animals myself.
00:36:31 Little animals are going to die every other season anyways.
00:36:33 What do you mean?
00:36:34 You're going to hurt a little animals?
00:36:35 Oh, I just don't like doing it myself.
00:36:37 It's not that I'm morally of a objecting.
00:36:42 I just want someone else to do my dirty work for me.
00:36:44 What about legally?
00:36:46 Are you that far out that you can hunt on your lander?
00:36:48 I believe
00:36:48 there are two deer blinds on my property from left over from the previous owner.
00:36:53 You might.
00:36:53 That might be a problem to you get out that far.
00:36:56 You just come across your land and next thing you know, you got hunters. And
00:37:01 I. I don't mind having visitors.
00:37:03 I like guests you, will.
00:37:05 Really? You kids get off my lawn.
00:37:07 Am I going to be that guy? A hunter?
00:37:09 I'll sit you staring
00:37:11 off in the distance and you realize he's in your country.
00:37:14 Those crazy rednecks.
00:37:15 I hear guns every day, but I don't hear sirens.
00:37:20 Oh, so,
00:37:21 yeah. So it's not an emergency.
00:37:24 I thought you were equating it to the gunfire.
00:37:27 No, see, it's not like city. It's on fire.
00:37:29 Then you hear sirens, right? Right.
00:37:32 I don't. I don't have that.
00:37:33 I think it's interesting that when you're in a wealthy neighborhood,
00:37:37 when you get to a stoplight, all the cars shut off and they have to
00:37:40 turn back on when you start driving, but also when you're a poor
00:37:43 neighborhood, all the cars shut off and they have to restart them.
00:37:46 But it's for different reasons.
00:37:50 Uh, is a racist joke in there that I missed?
00:37:53 No, it's the poor people. Their cars stall.
00:37:56 The rich people have cars that filthy shut off to save gas.
00:38:00 My crappy car started, no problem.
00:38:02 But it would not shut off all the key out.
00:38:05 It's still be going up a part of a backup.
00:38:07 That's hilarious. That's great. Yeah.
00:38:10 My speedometer stopped working.
00:38:12 I was driving 120 miles an hour here, but I really wasn't.
00:38:16 I swear I wasn't.
00:38:17 But the speedometer was reading that.
00:38:20 But it was also reading 38 miles an hour when I was parked.
00:38:24 It'd be better if I just didn't read anything.
00:38:27 I don't know.
00:38:28 Maybe it's just 40 miles an hour off and I just need to subtract the 40.
00:38:31 And I was going way too fast when I was going on 20.
00:38:33 I was really going 80.
00:38:35 And there is no 80 mile an hour speed limit in Michigan.
00:38:39 Then I could I could do that.
00:38:43 More accurate.
00:38:43 You know, most speedometers are off greatly. Yes.
00:38:48 Generally they they're going to be
00:38:51 it's going to tell you you're going faster than you really are.
00:38:54 They're all different.
00:38:56 Yeah.
00:38:56 I think just to be on the safe side, it better tell you you're going
00:38:59 faster than you really are better.
00:39:01 And yeah, it would be better to be going slower just to be on the safe side.
00:39:05 Well, yeah.
00:39:06 Go too slow, though.
00:39:07 Can we cue Robert Lawrence KUHN
00:39:13 or Sean Carroll?
00:39:15 Know who that is? Is that is closer to the truth.
00:39:18 Closer to the truth? Oh, nice.
00:39:21 Yeah. This.
00:39:22 This is a great video, Joy, but I want to.
00:39:25 It's. Oh, it's only 6:00. Fair enough.
00:39:32 Let your poor first get that on film.
00:39:34 Film?
00:39:35 The only film there is is not film.
00:39:37 But I call a film me two.
00:39:40 Is it information?
00:39:41 It is information. Absolutely is information.
00:39:44 So in all essence, just before you take your break,
00:39:45 there's only two kinds of information a zero and a1a
00:39:50 bit can either be on or off.
00:39:52 Yeah, that's it.
00:39:54 Nope. Don't know.
00:39:56 What are you saying?
00:39:57 You were going to rebut?
00:39:59 Everything else is made up of that.
00:40:02 Remember when I said that you could digitize
00:40:05 every experience you've ever had and it's still not you
00:40:11 with the digital experience?
00:40:12 No. That
00:40:17 you're right.
00:40:18 I'm not. But you're right. But it wouldn't matter.
00:40:20 How do you know that? You're indistinguishable?
00:40:22 You know that dreaming isn't real
00:40:24 and what you are now is 100% fake, whatever that means, right?
00:40:28 No, no. Wrong,
00:40:30 wrong, wrong.
00:40:31 I'm wrong.
00:40:32 I was just trying to draw you back in from your break.
00:40:34 I know you.
00:41:03 I go to Vieques Island, Puerto Rico.
00:41:07 Why this rugged place with dense forests?
00:41:10 Why here?
00:41:11 To investigate information in the cosmos.
00:41:14 A unique gathering is here, organized by the thousands.
00:41:18 A lot of information institute after Tufekci
00:41:21 is not ducking colleges who dare to think outside the box of conventional wisdom
00:41:26 over the horizon of current science.
00:41:30 The sugar ducking has an organizing principle, the physics of information.
00:41:35 And here's the deep question Is information the ultimate stuff
00:41:39 from which physical reality is built?
00:41:43 Will the ideas and arguments of these scientists
00:41:46 be as tangled as the roots and branches of these forests?
00:41:50 How to clear away the underbrush of old ideas?
00:41:54 I start as a skeptic.
00:41:56 Information is reality seems so outlandish, so trendy,
00:42:00 a metaphor on steroids.
00:42:03 I speak with an expert in quantum
00:42:05 information who defends the strong idea
00:42:08 that information is indeed most fundamental.
00:42:11 An MIT professor, Seth Lloyd, says, I'm all for computers.
00:42:16 I understand how information and bits worth, but you want me to do
00:42:19 something more.
00:42:20 You want me to believe that the whole universe is a computer
00:42:24 and that computation is at the foundations of everything?
00:42:28 How can you think that way?
00:42:31 Is it obvious?
00:42:34 So one way we could take that statement
00:42:36 that the universe is a computer is a metaphor.
00:42:38 All right?
00:42:39 It's like we live in the age of computation,
00:42:42 and when you've got a hammer, everything looks like a nail
00:42:45 I mean, used to be a telephone exchange.
00:42:47 Used to be telephone exchange.
00:42:48 Before that, it was a giant piece of clockwork.
00:42:50 Right. So.
00:42:51 So now we have computers, you know, Next thing, the universe just going
00:42:55 to be a big smartphone thing.
00:42:57 But when I say that the universe is a computer,
00:43:00 I'm actually making a technical, scientific and mathematical statement.
00:43:05 What is a computer?
00:43:07 Okay, let's be precise about this.
00:43:09 The computers that we have on our desktops or the computers that we have in
00:43:14 our smartphones are devices that process information in a systematic fashion.
00:43:20 They're physical systems that contain bits of information
00:43:23 and a conventional electronic computer a bit as a little capacitor
00:43:26 like a bucket for electrons and of the bucket is uncharged.
00:43:30 So there are no electrons over here.
00:43:31 Then we call that a zero.
00:43:33 If you put a whole bunch of electrons over here.
00:43:34 So the bucket is charged full of electrons, then we call that a one.
00:43:39 And then when you flip bits you like, you move the electrons back and forth.
00:43:42 So you dump the electrons out, you put them around, you put them back in,
00:43:46 and that is flipping bits.
00:43:48 And at bottom
00:43:49 all a computer is, is a device that flips bits in a systematic fashion.
00:43:54 Okay?
00:43:55 And in fact, in order for it to do the kinds of things that our cell phones
00:43:59 and that our our computers and our cameras actually do,
00:44:04 the actual architecture by which they flip the bits can be very simple.
00:44:08 And what is complicated is the program that we put in to say, okay,
00:44:13 have Siri talk to me in that seductive, yet chaste voice that she uses.
00:44:18 Right.
00:44:19 Okay.
00:44:20 So a computer has a technical definition.
00:44:22 It's a physical system that breaks up information to bits,
00:44:26 and it flips those bits in a systematic fashion.
00:44:29 So what is the universe?
00:44:32 The universe is a physical system that we've known for more than 100 years,
00:44:37 that at bottom, every atom, every elementary
00:44:40 particle carries with it bits of information.
00:44:43 So an electron, for instance, it has a spin.
00:44:47 The spin is quantized by the laws of quantum mechanics.
00:44:50 It says it can only take two distinguishable values
00:44:52 spinning up like that or spinning down like that.
00:44:56 So it's a bit you could call spinning up a zero.
00:45:00 You could call spinning down to one, but it's a bit
00:45:02 whether you call it a zero or a one or not.
00:45:06 So at bottom, the universe consists of information.
00:45:10 Every elementary particle carries information
00:45:12 just like a bit in a computer except smaller.
00:45:15 And when two electrons, each carrying a bit of information
00:45:19 come and they interact with each other, those bits flip
00:45:23 and they flip in a systematic way.
00:45:25 They perform a logic operation.
00:45:27 But if a ordinary computer is just a system
00:45:32 that contains bits of information that interact with each other and flip
00:45:36 in a systematic fashion, then the universe at bottom is just a big, gigantic,
00:45:42 maybe infinite system that contains bits of information at its small scales.
00:45:46 Those bits are interacting with each other in a systematic fashion.
00:45:51 So the substrate, the kind of computational substrate is there.
00:45:55 And the only additional question is, is it really technically a digital computer?
00:46:00 So can the bits flipping that goes on the universe
00:46:03 do the same kind of bit flipping that goes on in our smartphones?
00:46:08 Well,
00:46:09 I don't even have to argue about that because our smartphones are
00:46:12 part of the universe.
00:46:13 So of course, the kind of bit flipping that goes on in our smartphones is allowed
00:46:16 and indeed encouraged by the bit flipping that goes on the universe as a whole.
00:46:21 And even more remarkably, we can build quantum computers that store
00:46:24 bits on individual atoms and elementary particles
00:46:26 and actually do this computation at this microscopic.
00:46:31 So the
00:46:31 claim that the universe is a giant computer is not just some metaphorical
00:46:35 claim, it's actually a technical claim about what is a computer.
00:46:38 So when I say that the universe is a computer, I'm simply stating
00:46:41 a scientific and mathematical fact
00:46:46 that seems sure that information is not just a way
00:46:49 of appreciating or approximating how the universe works,
00:46:53 but the literal, most fundamental way it actually works.
00:46:57 The universe is not like a computer as explanatory metaphor.
00:47:02 The universe is really a computer as scientific fact.
00:47:06 The claim is monumental.
00:47:08 If Seth is right, reality must change.
00:47:12 But must it?
00:47:14 Perhaps Seth is so generally using the concept of computing
00:47:17 such that the universe becomes a computer.
00:47:19 Almost by definition.
00:47:22 Caltech cosmologist Sean Carroll has strong opinions
00:47:26 about what's bedrock he's written on time and fundamental particles.
00:47:30 Does he have a strong opinion about information?
00:47:34 SHORT Some
00:47:35 people will now talk about information being
00:47:38 not just a metaphor, but rather something that's even more fundamental.
00:47:43 That information itself
00:47:44 is what gives rise to everything else, like quantum mechanics.
00:47:48 How do you see that?
00:47:50 I tend to think of information in very similar ways
00:47:52 that I would think about ideas like entropy or energy,
00:47:56 which is to say they are ways of describing reality,
00:47:59 but they're not absolutely fundamental, necessary ingredients of any description.
00:48:03 We could get along without talking about information,
00:48:05 just like we could get along without ever talking about energy.
00:48:08 I don't think information is deeper than the laws of physics.
00:48:10 I think it gives us a useful handle.
00:48:12 I think of it as a description, but I only hesitate in saying that
00:48:16 because it sounds like I'm downplaying and I think it's an incredibly useful
00:48:19 handle, a really sharp tool that helps us understand how reality works.
00:48:24 But it is a tool.
00:48:25 It is not an absolutely essential part of reality itself.
00:48:27 When you say it's a tool, is that like a mathematical equation
00:48:31 as a tool which is making a tool or an approximation of reality?
00:48:35 Because people who defend this would say that the information is contained
00:48:41 in every operation that the universe does is a computer nation.
00:48:45 And therefore, because of that,
00:48:48 the information is more fundamental to what the universe does.
00:48:52 Yeah, I hear words like that all the time about everything is a computation.
00:48:56 What's happening in the universe
00:48:57 and its evolution is information is being processed.
00:49:00 I think that gives me an angle
00:49:02 to look at the universe, but I don't think it's a necessary or fundamental angle.
00:49:06 I don't imagine a question in physics
00:49:09 about how the universe changes from one thing into another
00:49:13 that I couldn't answer without ever talking about information.
00:49:16 So how would you answer it?
00:49:18 By using differential equations.
00:49:20 That's right.
00:49:21 So going back to Isaac Newton, who said that
00:49:23 you describe the world by giving the position
00:49:26 where all of all the particles and then I have laws of physics
00:49:29 that tell you how they evolve with time in quantum mechanics.
00:49:31 We've updated that
00:49:32 with wave functions in quantum states, but it's still the same paradigm,
00:49:36 and information gives us
00:49:37 a useful way of conceptualizing it, but it doesn't change the underlying laws.
00:49:41 And what would it take for you to change that opinion?
00:49:43 What would you have to to know?
00:49:45 Or think about the structure of the universe to say, Well, wait a minute,
00:49:49 maybe information is more fundamental than I realized, or any computer model
00:49:52 to prove it.
00:49:54 A better theory than the one we think we have about the universe
00:49:57 in which Peter model proved that the reality was a computer model,
00:50:00 the uses to which information,
00:50:02 information theory and information processing are put, as far as I understand
00:50:06 them, are ways to understand physical processes that are described
00:50:10 by other things that are not described fundamentally by information.
00:50:13 So if that were not true, if there were a better theory of the universe
00:50:17 in which information was the first thing you needed to start
00:50:20 talking about that theory, then I would totally change my mind.
00:50:23 I knew to Shawn the jury is still out.
00:50:26 He isn't sure about the place of information.
00:50:29 He appreciates the use of information to facilitate or understand things.
00:50:33 And I'll have. But he doesn't
00:50:35 see the stuff of information replacing the classical paradigm,
00:50:40 the laws of physics, describing the position
00:50:42 and momentum of particles and how they evolve over time.
00:50:47 I'm with Shawn, but I feel, well, a bit antiquated.
00:50:51 Not so hip, really cool. Am I missing something?
00:50:54 Uh huh.
00:50:54 The primitive landscape helps undermine conventional wisdom.
00:50:59 Is there a more radical way to imagine information,
00:51:03 perhaps, in solving the biggest puzzle
00:51:06 of modern physics, the holy grail of quantum gravity,
00:51:10 how to integrate the universal geometry of gravity,
00:51:13 general relativity with the discrete mike.
00:51:17 Anyway, you're back.
00:51:19 Did we determine that
00:51:22 all information is digital
00:51:24 or is reducible to digital information?
00:51:26 But some some is just music or song or
00:51:31 other sounds us.
00:51:33 Some languages are clicking and nothing wrong with that
00:51:39 was R2-D2 baby.
00:51:42 There's a South Park episode with the clicking people and texting draw people.
00:51:46 In the future I'll only collect.
00:51:48 I'm sending you information like ready?
00:51:51 When my mother
00:51:53 got particularly
00:51:54 useful information, but information nonetheless.
00:52:00 I'm not sure I understand.
00:52:03 Qualia The
00:52:05 the thing it is like to be something
00:52:08 or like something,
00:52:11 but I don't think it applies to colors.
00:52:16 I'm going to draw on this draw.
00:52:18 Hit me.
00:52:21 You texted me.
00:52:22 It's good information.
00:52:24 It's not good information.
00:52:26 EG nab it.
00:52:28 I'm not even trying to provide good information, but
00:52:31 I want to look at all of it and
00:52:35 parcel it out.
00:52:36 See what makes sense to me.
00:52:39 I am trying to figure out the truth, you know,
00:52:42 figure out what what's really going on here.
00:52:46 I might be chasing my tail with a lot of a lot of this nonsense.
00:52:51 Oh, I wanted to bring something up.
00:52:53 Yeah, please do.
00:52:58 Dora, give us a call
00:53:04 on. I want his take on this.
00:53:09 So I found this interesting
00:53:14 browser. Yeah.
00:53:15 Where does the Internet actually live?
00:53:17 Well, it's in a city, actually two or three cities.
00:53:21 But the main place that routes, which is frightening to me,
00:53:24 very close to Langley, too.
00:53:25 But it's Loudon County, Virginia. Okay.
00:53:28 The town of Ashburn.
00:53:31 And it's just by coincidence, that's where the first like
00:53:33 probably way back when with the telephone data center.
00:53:36 Oh, but almost all data in the world,
00:53:40 if not all the data in the world routes through this data center.
00:53:44 Oh, so if I needed someone there
00:53:47 because because
00:53:48 America Online started their way back when and that's why in the nineties
00:53:51 and then was AOL still exist the main in some capacity but not under that name.
00:53:56 Okay.
00:53:57 So basically whenever you if the Internet, the closer you are
00:54:01 to that main backbone, the big fat wire, obviously the faster your services are.
00:54:05 So everybody moved into this town just to be closed all back to whoever.
00:54:10 But now it's just that's if I was in an intelligence agency,
00:54:14 that's where I put my little listening part to, you know, gather.
00:54:17 I remember
00:54:18 if you wanted
00:54:18 to be serious about the Internet, you had to have a T1 dedicated line.
00:54:21 Is that still true?
00:54:22 No, that's good, UpLink. That's good.
00:54:24 Up, up, speed, but bad down bad download speed.
00:54:29 Right now, I think fiber optic is still the fastest we can get ten g
00:54:34 and that's just pulses of light through glass.
00:54:36 Your house has fiber between 101,000,
00:54:40 but fiber optics, minimum is ten G you know that
00:54:43 that cable they drop between England and the U.S.
00:54:47 through the Atlantic Ocean, The Trans continental, That one?
00:54:50 Yeah.
00:54:51 Why do there they put fiber optic cable in there
00:54:55 before they were using fiber optic cable for anything.
00:54:58 Why did how did they what did they?
00:55:01 I don't think it's a fiber optic.
00:55:02 I mean, it's happened there are a bunch of different lines and it's the new one.
00:55:07 Yeah, it got cut two times in history.
00:55:09 I forgot why.
00:55:10 I know. Oh, no. A ships anchor tore at one time.
00:55:13 Oh, no, It's prime an upgraded douche bag.
00:55:15 I haven't upgraded, but anytime I run cable and I don't run
00:55:19 that kind of cable, I've done a 99.9 thousand
00:55:22 999 conductor once, but we were just putting connectors on it.
00:55:26 We weren't actually installing it.
00:55:27 Yeah.
00:55:27 Whenever you install cables you want to futureproof it,
00:55:29 you want to put spares, then you want to put
00:55:31 if there's any hint of any technology coming down the line.
00:55:34 Yeah.
00:55:34 And you're putting something in there, they absolutely would have put it in.
00:55:37 So it's not like
00:55:37 if you're suggesting that like aliens did it or time travel or something.
00:55:40 Right. That's not.
00:55:41 Well, I thought that microwave ovens
00:55:44 came out at a weird time, you know, just after World War Two.
00:55:47 Like, I thought it was unusual.
00:55:50 Then I heard the story.
00:55:51 Oh, there's Chuck Barr in the scientist pocket.
00:55:55 But if he were stealing alien technology, when you make clever little anecdotes,
00:55:58 stories like that, for to make up the discovery,
00:56:01 and if you want to cover up a lie, wouldn't
00:56:03 you have some crazy details to throw in there?
00:56:04 Absolutely.
00:56:05 Details are important with a lie. Yeah.
00:56:08 That's why. I mean, I've been told.
00:56:09 Yeah, you know, Why are you telling the truth?
00:56:13 Well, would you believe me?
00:56:14 Would you believe me if I told you not to? I'm not,
00:56:19 I. I'm not.
00:56:21 I'm not told you to be you.
00:56:23 I'm struggling here. Struggling?
00:56:25 That's an absolute direct insult.
00:56:28 I'll take it.
00:56:30 Oh, I don't know anything about information.
00:56:31 Here's some. Here's some fun facts.
00:56:33 Yeah.
00:56:34 The smallest information you already established was a bit. Yes.
00:56:37 What is the next size up of information?
00:56:40 Uh, it's not a bite.
00:56:43 It's not a bite.
00:56:43 It's not a bite.
00:56:44 It's just something between a centipede.
00:56:48 It's a nibble.
00:56:49 Oh, goodness.
00:56:50 I'm not making that up.
00:56:51 A unit of four bits now is back in the day when there were only eight bits, right?
00:56:56 Orbits was huge.
00:56:57 Put four characters in a little chip.
00:56:59 Yeah. You know, to save it.
00:57:01 Yeah. It's a nibble.
00:57:02 Four bits is a nibble.
00:57:03 I, I still want to play you my Nintendo 64.
00:57:08 No, I don't have that one.
00:57:10 But in bins over there I have everything all the way back to the Atari 2600.
00:57:14 No kidding.
00:57:14 I've got I think I have four or five of those.
00:57:17 They all fire up. Oh, nice.
00:57:20 I've been digging out my old console systems because I'm looking
00:57:23 for, well, one of my two N64 consoles
00:57:27 because I want to place the word kids too.
00:57:30 Okay, I'll play it right now.
00:57:32 Oh, wait a minute. Of.
00:57:34 Oh, wait a minute. Do you snowboard, kids?
00:57:36 Oh, I'm sure if it's not on the asteroids, it's on the computer or the phone.
00:57:40 Oh, okay. Yeah. So we're kids, too.
00:57:43 Yeah.
00:57:43 So on the on the retro games, I only have arcade games.
00:57:47 Right. Okay. That was never on the computer.
00:57:49 I have every console to
00:57:52 where
00:57:52 there they're emulating all the way up to the PlayStation two.
00:57:55 PlayStation three is a little rough.
00:57:57 Yeah, but the what is it, Nintendo 64. Yeah.
00:58:00 I bet you nobody can hear the Nintendo 64.
00:58:02 I have full emulation. We can play it. Say the game again.
00:58:05 Snowboard kids, too.
00:58:09 I mean, there's nothing wrong with snow.
00:58:10 We're kids, but still we're kids. Two is a better game.
00:58:12 The graphics are horrendous by today's standards, but
00:58:15 my goodness, Mr. Dog
00:58:19 part of the game because he scared me.
00:58:21 I know I sometimes I blurt out things for no good reason.
00:58:25 I snowboard kids too.
00:58:27 Mm. And memories just say yeah, that's the thing
00:58:31 anything I don't write down within 2 seconds is gone.
00:58:34 That is absolutely the thing It is that is
00:58:38 best for player
00:58:39 simultaneous racing game I've ever played.
00:58:44 But I'm going to put you on
00:58:47 in a spin.
00:58:48 Oh, yeah, Give me a spin.
00:58:52 Yeah.
00:58:52 Why did you let me see your struggle when you can give me a spin
00:58:55 and go off? You're not struggling.
00:58:57 You're talking,
00:58:59 you're fine.
00:59:01 Well, I'll be all right.
00:59:03 Give me some good cards.
00:59:05 I actually love cards.
00:59:06 I love playing cards. I like. I.
00:59:08 I did have.
00:59:09 I have a bone to pick with tarot cards, but I.
00:59:15 I'll go alone with left
00:59:17 power is high to suited.
00:59:20 I, I love.
00:59:21 I love
00:59:24 that my grandmother let me play that euchre That is euchre.
00:59:28 My grandmother let me play at the adult table when I was eight years old,
00:59:33 a bit of a child prodigy at cards, but she taught me 80 games
00:59:37 by the time I was six,
00:59:38 so I knew how to play every single game they could possibly play.
00:59:41 Me too. My hands were big enough for canasta.
00:59:44 It was like my hands were too small to hold the hand.
00:59:47 Yes, she did.
00:59:48 She held it for you. She.
00:59:49 My mom held both. She.
00:59:51 She taught me a trick,
00:59:54 you know, And the first thing I do is sort my suit.
00:59:56 And then all you need to do is open that suit,
01:00:00 and then you can close the rest until the next trick
01:00:05 right handed out as needed.
01:00:06 So I have a clever thing.
01:00:09 So learning cards. Prodigy.
01:00:11 Yeah. Sort of thing.
01:00:12 Oh, so when I act like you're whole act like you're dealing right now.
01:00:19 Okay, how would you deal?
01:00:22 So from the bottom when I write, Yeah, that's when I do it.
01:00:25 I do it left handed.
01:00:27 I'm right handed because my mom taught me,
01:00:30 and all I did was mirrored her because I was like, mirror.
01:00:32 I was less than my grandfather's left handed on the pool table.
01:00:36 I shoot pool left handed.
01:00:37 I play cards backwards because I was just learning how to play.
01:00:40 We look what came. We played.
01:00:42 It was pennies.
01:00:43 I sometimes just we played just fun.
01:00:46 You know what, Tonks I don't remember the rules of Tonk.
01:00:49 Poincaré Oh gosh.
01:00:51 Of the 80 games that I learned by the time I was three,
01:00:54 I'm sure Tank was one of them.
01:00:55 I remember like four
01:00:57 and I can't remember I I'd have the peanut or euchre or the two bowls
01:01:01 I never learned.
01:01:01 Bridge that a car is a card.
01:01:04 Yes, absolutely.
01:01:06 Never learned that one.
01:01:08 Oh, my favorite card game
01:01:10 is five hander Pedro
01:01:13 that pronounced Pedro.
01:01:15 It would be if I didn't live in Michigan.
01:01:18 Edo it is spelled Pedro.
01:01:21 I'm not familiar with that game.
01:01:23 The Pedro is the the Pedro.
01:01:27 The Pedro is the fives.
01:01:29 The five are worth five points to the person who takes it.
01:01:32 The deuce is worth one to the person who has it.
01:01:35 Ace Jack tenner worth point a piece and
01:01:39 and basically you can call 13 points if you have to the top three
01:01:45 and another one to lead with
01:01:48 because you get to call your partner.
01:01:52 Does that draw You know, that's my video game that I launched a while ago.
01:01:55 I didn't kill the street.
01:01:59 That's awesome
01:02:01 for a draw
01:02:04 and a draw.
01:02:05 Is that the draw?
01:02:07 The box?
01:02:09 Is that on screen?
01:02:11 I have no screen.
01:02:11 No, I'm just looking.
01:02:13 If I can find it, I'll put it on screen. You're just supposed to.
01:02:15 I have no screening the picture on it.
01:02:17 You're supposed to be written about cards. Here, I'll do another spin.
01:02:19 Yeah, give me those.
01:02:22 I'll bet you that sound is going on.
01:02:23 I hope cards comes up again.
01:02:25 You hear the sound of the video game?
01:02:26 I've got baseball cards from my childhood.
01:02:29 I've got, like, an entire season of Ace of Basketball Cards Fleer.
01:02:34 Now, a better because of
01:02:37 microbes that
01:02:39 those are what the the Janes are trying to save by drinking
01:02:42 their drinking water through cheesecloth of microbes.
01:02:47 The reason they're scary, a lot of people think they're gross
01:02:50 and they're only gross if they, like, start rotting flesh or cause.
01:02:54 Plus, you know, the real gross things.
01:02:56 But microbes also can't hurt you.
01:02:58 And if they do, there's not much you can do about them.
01:03:00 They're too small to mess with. Anyway,
01:03:03 I've been
01:03:03 bugged by flies over the weekend, mosquitoes.
01:03:07 And they aren't too small to be seen.
01:03:09 I just can't swat them all.
01:03:12 But yeah, microbes, they're.
01:03:14 They can be terrifying, but they're not as gross as other people.
01:03:17 Like people say, Ooh, germs.
01:03:19 I think I'll lick the floor. I don't care.
01:03:23 Yeah, that makes you stronger.
01:03:24 Makes you stronger.
01:03:25 There's a guy that drinks all this water out of his pig trough farmer Right.
01:03:29 Green, filthy pig trough. Yeah.
01:03:31 Never been sick in a day's life. The guy's, like, 80 years old.
01:03:33 Write stories on the Internet.
01:03:35 I'm sure it's true.
01:03:36 Yeah.
01:03:36 Easy was picking on me for calling Earth water or dirt.
01:03:40 Water. I was.
01:03:40 I was refilling can from straight from the pond,
01:03:45 and it tasted like dirt and he said, I.
01:03:50 I'm not going to touch that stuff.
01:03:51 It'll make me sick. It's not worth it.
01:03:53 I was fine.
01:03:54 I don't know.
01:03:55 I was like, one neat thing that did come from my physical today,
01:03:59 It was more rigorous than the Department of Transportation.
01:04:02 Physical, which is odd.
01:04:04 But they had me
01:04:06 do this group strength test and all I had to get was £25.
01:04:10 But I squeezed as hard as I could and popped the 130 on my right hand.
01:04:14 No, no.
01:04:14 And a 130 on my left hand, which is weird because I'm right handed.
01:04:17 I thought my right
01:04:17 hand would come up stronger, but I did as hard as I could with both.
01:04:21 I came up with 130 that superhuman, you know,
01:04:24 the big buff bodybuilders get probably on 5160.
01:04:28 But I thought 130 was pretty good.
01:04:32 Me Strong
01:04:34 pounds Yeah, £130 with my handgrip.
01:04:38 Which one was it your jerk off hand.
01:04:40 I was someone switch batter.
01:04:42 Oh that's smart.
01:04:43 So you don't get all uneven. Yeah. Yeah.
01:04:46 What was that game again?
01:04:47 I already forgot. I Bored kids.
01:04:48 I wrote it down, but I can't see the screen. I wrote it down and I.
01:04:52 I'll forget it again already.
01:04:53 I'm going to find it. Here we go.
01:04:55 I'm 64
01:05:01 and go right to the S
01:05:10 two. Yes, that's the one.
01:05:13 That's the exact one.
01:05:14 Doesn't work. Oh, I love the music.
01:05:16 That's.
01:05:17 It's music to my ears.
01:05:20 Oh, works.
01:05:20 I don't have an O. You know what?
01:05:21 I really.
01:05:24 I don't think we can put it on the stream.
01:05:27 No, that's all right.
01:05:28 Next time. Oh, yeah,
01:05:31 that was fun.
01:05:31 I just want to make sure I had it.
01:05:33 Yeah, I feel better.
01:05:36 Yeah.
01:05:37 I don't even know if I have four working controllers for the N64.
01:05:40 I do have two consoles.
01:05:41 I got Easy's and I've got my original one and I've got two copies of that game,
01:05:47 two copies of Monster Truck Madness 64.
01:05:50 That was the good old days when you could actually have won Council one game.
01:05:53 Have your friend come over and play.
01:05:54 Yeah.
01:05:54 Nowadays everybody that plays like
01:05:56 if you play the new man, they all have a $500 Xbox.
01:05:59 Yep. $100 game.
01:06:01 Or you want to play the full game, you're going to play micro-transactions
01:06:04 like frickin Supercell does what their stupid.
01:06:07 Oh, sorry.
01:06:07 I don't mean to rant on a pledge rant show nuff rants.
01:06:11 I welcome all rant welcome.
01:06:13 Supercell is on the picker. We'll
01:06:16 oh okay I bring it
01:06:18 supercell you're going to get years
01:06:25 wishy washy good news break soon.
01:06:29 Well there hasn't been any breaking news I got a new job.
01:06:33 Oh I can't remember what I was supposed to be talking about it.
01:06:36 This is my fault. I just.
01:06:38 I don't retain stuff like I used to. I've got. I've got.
01:06:41 I'll make a mental note and it's invisible link or something.
01:06:45 I don't get it.
01:06:47 It's like I've got Alzheimer's.
01:06:49 Early onset. I'm nine years old.
01:06:52 It is way too early for me to forget if I put on socks.
01:06:55 This Alzheimer's isn't if you forgot to put on your socks.
01:06:59 Alzheimer's is like can't form forgot where you wear your socks live.
01:07:03 Oh, okay.
01:07:04 You know, it's. Yeah, it's a whole nother level.
01:07:07 It's still information, though.
01:07:09 The nice thing about having Alzheimer's, though, is you have no idea.
01:07:12 We were talking about the electronic impulses or how memory is stored.
01:07:17 The wet software that is in our brain, there's this gray matter
01:07:21 and I, I,
01:07:24 I think it's actually hardware.
01:07:26 But regardless, I think drawing had it wrong or you had it wrong.
01:07:29 One somebody else, but you had it wrong.
01:07:31 Everyone but me has it wrong and I have it right.
01:07:34 And all you have to do is listen to me and forget what you your preconceived
01:07:38 notions brain is the hardware, the impulses,
01:07:43 but it's not stored as an electronic impulse.
01:07:46 And is it stored as a muscle?
01:07:48 I don't know.
01:07:49 No, absolutely.
01:07:50 Stored as a as an electrical impulse.
01:07:53 Imagine the best way I could describe it is if plumbing is pipes,
01:07:57 then wherever it's stored is like the water tank.
01:08:00 Okay.
01:08:01 It has to have you have to have some type of control.
01:08:03 I'm not thinking of all of my memories.
01:08:05 The reason why memories from your mind die is because your battery,
01:08:08 you know the power plant and you cannot produce electricity.
01:08:12 I thought it uploads into the cosmic decay.
01:08:16 I would assume that those systems that you know that hold like you.
01:08:20 I just lost a whole bank.
01:08:21 Or it might like short circuit.
01:08:24 What if it like, gets reset?
01:08:26 People have memory loss.
01:08:27 Yeah the banks work just fine, but they seem to have been erased.
01:08:30 Those are all absolutely indicative of like hard drives.
01:08:33 All those are symptoms of magnetic or electrical, whether it's digital.
01:08:38 Don't know if it's light or if it's magnetic.
01:08:40 I don't know what stores it, but it absolutely is electrical.
01:08:43 Okay. It has to be.
01:08:44 I plan on losing my mind.
01:08:46 I plan on going mad before.
01:08:50 Will there be warning signs of that?
01:08:51 I hope. Yeah, I just announced it.
01:08:55 It's that and not a sign that it's going to happen. No,
01:08:59 somebody that has and I actually literally warned you.
01:09:02 I don't believe you if you're already.
01:09:05 What if you.
01:09:05 Oh, because I already told you the difference in information and knowledge.
01:09:09 No, just because you might have already started going mad.
01:09:12 All right. I could be wrong about going mad.
01:09:14 And somebody who's going to go mad would lay some type of groundwork.
01:09:18 I don't understand it.
01:09:18 Maybe backwards to my intuition, but
01:09:22 my brain tells me I'm sane.
01:09:24 But can I trust it? Yes.
01:09:27 Are you sure?
01:09:28 I think you can't. You have no choice. Listen.
01:09:30 So I'll even be so bold.
01:09:31 People are happier if they believe shit that their mind believes
01:09:36 doesn't have to be true.
01:09:37 And this is. There's statistics on this.
01:09:39 Like anybody who has type of a mantra
01:09:41 or a policy on life, whatever you want to call it, a religion,
01:09:43 if you want to go that far right, are typically happier
01:09:46 just because they've answered what is the meaning of life, right?
01:09:50 It doesn't have to be the right truth.
01:09:52 Right?
01:09:53 But if your brain thinks it is, then it's a healthy way to live.
01:09:56 I just out that the sun is green,
01:10:00 but is it? No.
01:10:03 So. So
01:10:05 in order to be happy, what do you think?
01:10:08 What what do you what does that mean?
01:10:10 So let's stop you from getting crazy to begin with.
01:10:12 In my world, I'm happy with three main principles.
01:10:17 Autonomy. Okay. Mastery?
01:10:19 Yeah and purpose.
01:10:20 Oh, is long.
01:10:22 It's so people are like, what is the meaning of life?
01:10:23 The meaning of life is actually maybe mastery is the tricky one, but I'm sorry.
01:10:28 I'm sorry. That's like happiness.
01:10:29 The pursuit of happiness. I said it wrong.
01:10:31 Yeah. The pursuit of mastery.
01:10:33 Okay. Okay.
01:10:34 Nobody, any.
01:10:35 Any master will tell you you're never a master.
01:10:37 Always. That's autonomy.
01:10:39 Ties into free will.
01:10:40 If, if, if the entire universe is a
01:10:45 a chain, a sequence of of particles
01:10:50 following the laws of physics, everything is destined.
01:10:53 Everything's predestined
01:10:55 like this.
01:10:57 The decisions you make are a result of a cascade
01:11:02 of of previous
01:11:05 events.
01:11:06 If there's if time doesn't exist.
01:11:08 She did test where you're to raise your hand whenever you feel like it.
01:11:13 And they measured your brain impulses.
01:11:17 And about a second a half before you raise your hand,
01:11:21 the brain impulse went off before you consciously did this.
01:11:25 So it shows at the helm.
01:11:28 You're saying that consciousness is a little bit before reality.
01:11:32 A consciousness is behind.
01:11:35 Like your conscious thought, like you said, is it?
01:11:38 See, I
01:11:42 studies are bullshit.
01:11:43 Let's just say that, okay?
01:11:44 You can have 15 people in a room that one study they did with the people
01:11:47 at the banana and apple.
01:11:48 I remember what the what the topics were, but they were
01:11:50 14 people that were in on the experiment and the 15 person was the experiment.
01:11:54 I showed them an apple and the 14 people said it was a banana or whatever.
01:11:58 And the 15th person almost every time said the apple was a banana.
01:12:03 So influence I think is huge on your mind.
01:12:07 You can't
01:12:09 I would to be that person that says banana I would never
01:12:13 I would I will not I will not yeah I'm I've been
01:12:16 I won't go along with the message I've been physically emotionally
01:12:19 and mentally abused for standing my ground right many times.
01:12:23 Oh yeah I do now.
01:12:24 I pride myself in doing that That Yes, that's how you stand.
01:12:26 Yeah. Yeah.
01:12:28 And that that's one of my, my key selling points to all of my, my non senses.
01:12:33 Just because you're a member of the majority doesn't mean you're right.
01:12:36 And as one of those people, doesn't it make you sad
01:12:39 the people that humanity typically.
01:12:41 Oh yeah.
01:12:42 The masses of mean and but that horde mentality
01:12:47 if I'm part of the the mass I really do go along with the crowd.
01:12:51 Well that's part
01:12:52 of know the happiness part I guess you want to be.
01:12:57 I remember when they used to stoned people to death.
01:13:00 No, I don't.
01:13:01 Oh. Heard about it? Yeah.
01:13:03 Have they ever.
01:13:04 Have you ever been apart?
01:13:06 I've been stoned.
01:13:08 I'm taking another break.
01:13:10 What? I'm sorry.
01:13:12 What do you want me to say? I'm not sorry.
01:13:15 I think I left this going on.
01:13:17 Robert Lawrence kun, we need to transform this into a different thing, though.
01:13:22 Otherwise, we'll get out of
01:13:24 everything we do.
01:13:25 All our banter will go to this guy's YouTube channel.
01:13:29 I be willing.
01:13:30 It should, because we're just showing it.
01:13:33 Yeah, we'll continue to do that.
01:13:35 Yeah, Dude, rocks. Dude's great.
01:13:37 What's his name?
01:13:38 Robert Lawrence Kyun. And what's his show?
01:13:41 Closer to the Truth Crew events, of course.
01:13:43 Fantastic. Watch it every day.
01:13:46 Watch it every day.
01:13:48 That's another one. Who is required?
01:13:50 Could that be getting a little younger information as he's still time
01:13:53 machine girl? Oh, nonsense.
01:13:55 This girl theorist at Berkeley shouldn't notice.
01:13:57 I think moved on to quantum computing and I just how can information
01:14:00 help us with the problem of quantum gravity of unifying
01:14:05 that just by the number of disparate theories of quantum mechanics and general
01:14:08 relativity single episodes that help to explain how information
01:14:13 might help with quantum gravity, It's like a character monologue.
01:14:16 Another there's not this guy other Oh, that's the other guy.
01:14:19 That's Robert Lawrence.
01:14:20 Keep saying he looks gravity looks like one of the show's over.
01:14:23 He takes off his Albert Einstein mask.
01:14:25 I put a finite. He doesn't look like a thing. It
01:14:29 always looks like they did.
01:14:30 You notice I didn't eventually figured it out,
01:14:33 but I didn't notice that gravity is not really a form.
01:14:36 Gravity is geometry from a man. It's.
01:14:37 It's bodies moving straight. It's
01:14:41 fantastic. Thank you. Thank you.
01:14:43 Bend like this.
01:14:43 Really could pretty sexy yourself. Thank you.
01:14:46 And I need to get some sun.
01:14:47 We're trying to go one step further unify grabbed
01:14:50 the sun in the data sense theory with quantum mechanics.
01:14:53 I do I get it in quantum mechanics information quantum that all changes.
01:14:57 I'll be in a factory in which the theory formulated this golf tear
01:15:00 to be phenomenal.
01:15:02 I went twice the last week, doubled that, doubled my current.
01:15:05 I, I was going to ask what you did over your week point.
01:15:09 I myself contributed to understanding what those relations are
01:15:13 and they're really lousy, beautiful.
01:15:16 And it seems to me let's see, I put a deeper origin
01:15:20 that if we discover this to have, if we understand what underlies
01:15:24 this strange relation,
01:15:25 we might understand how to put together general relativity and quantum mechanics.
01:15:29 What was your own contribution?
01:15:35 Yeah, I know that one is I've
01:15:36 never made a basket, but I know that was a rim shot here.
01:15:40 If you can recognize this one,
01:15:44 that's a spin out.
01:15:45 That was a putt. I don't.
01:15:47 That's a partner.
01:15:48 Here's the best one.
01:15:52 I don't know how they know.
01:15:54 I don't know how the button knows what throw it was
01:15:57 out of the button.
01:15:58 No information now, is there?
01:16:00 Oh, it didn't get delayed.
01:16:01 Yes. Cool. My buttons are fixed.
01:16:05 We want information.
01:16:07 What I discovered following the work of of others, of course, is that if you cram
01:16:11 too much information into a regional space,
01:16:13 gravity will make it collapse to a black hole.
01:16:15 And eventually, if you cram more, the black hole
01:16:17 would get bigger than the surface area you specified and you just can't do that.
01:16:21 And so that provides an absolute limit on how much information you can have
01:16:25 completely independently of what you think the smallest constituents are.
01:16:30 It's a very universal thing that's governed only by gravity.
01:16:34 And so that establishes a connection between these two things quantum
01:16:38 and gravity, that if we could unravel its origin,
01:16:41 I think would tell us a lot about how to unify those two things.
01:16:44 How are you differentiating
01:16:45 between the particles or the the mass energy and the information?
01:16:49 How did the two articulate?
01:16:51 Well, the mass and energy are just forms in this.
01:16:56 You point that the information takes in this analysis.
01:16:58 Information is very fundamental.
01:17:00 It's not just a a way, it's not a measurement thing.
01:17:04 It's something that that is really the the primary constituent
01:17:08 of what you're working with.
01:17:09 So it does sound like it's
01:17:11 more fundamental than the common understanding of information.
01:17:15 It's clear that in this relationship between information
01:17:18 and geometry, it's information that has a simple relationship.
01:17:21 If I try to express that in terms of the masses and charges and so on of particles,
01:17:26 it becomes very convoluted and it would be impossible to see the relation.
01:17:30 So at the very least it tells us that this particular
01:17:32 relation gives a preferred status to information.
01:17:36 It's of course possible both the quantum information and the other
01:17:38 properties of physical nature have some common origin,
01:17:42 and so that's why I'm reluctant to simply declare
01:17:44 that information is automatically the most fundamental thing in the world.
01:17:47 But yes, you're right, that would be the first
01:17:49 guess you'd make looking at this relation
01:17:52 and trying to get the truth.
01:17:54 Rafael helped discover the deep relationship between information and space
01:17:59 and how information is stored in matter and energy.
01:18:03 Information to him is not so much modeling the system.
01:18:07 It is the system.
01:18:09 I'm no expert, but it sure sounds as if Rafael has shown that reality won't work
01:18:14 unless information is in some sense real.
01:18:18 He focuses on strings, the smallest things.
01:18:22 What about the biggest things?
01:18:24 The structure of the universe?
01:18:27 I asked one of the founders of contemporary cosmology,
01:18:30 the MIT professor, formulated cosmic Inflation
01:18:34 the Prevailing Theory for How the universe Began.
01:18:37 Alan Guth Alan One of the questions that is being here is not
01:18:43 just what information is in physics, but the claim by a few.
01:18:48 That information really is the most fundamental thing of existence.
01:18:53 How do you react to that?
01:18:55 Yeah,
01:18:55 after that I find those issues hard to pass,
01:18:59 but my own understanding of physics is that to me, matter,
01:19:05 energy and information are almost the same thing that is in physics.
01:19:10 We describe matter and energy by introducing fields
01:19:14 and equations that govern the evolution of those fields and so on.
01:19:18 But ultimately those fields are really just
01:19:20 mathematical devices that we use to describe reality.
01:19:24 And the values of those fields are information.
01:19:28 So I can easily believe that there are other formulations,
01:19:32 the laws of physics
01:19:32 that might look completely different but would have the same information content
01:19:37 and they would be equivalent.
01:19:39 So I would say that
01:19:42 ultimately physics is about
01:19:44 numbers, and numbers are information,
01:19:46 and everything that we use to describe the world is in terms of abstractions.
01:19:50 I don't think we have any sense of what really exists,
01:19:54 maybe can be more concrete by saying that.
01:19:56 I think that if a computer were simulating the world
01:20:00 and carrying out the evolution that we think the world really evolves
01:20:04 according to that is the true laws of physics,
01:20:07 not our approximation to the laws of physics.
01:20:09 I don't know if that's a plausible description of our actual universe,
01:20:13 but I would think that that would be completely equivalent to our universe,
01:20:16 that we could be living in such a universe and would not know the difference.
01:20:20 But the claim of goes deeper than than what you are comfortable with.
01:20:24 It's not just that information is another way to describe the laws
01:20:27 of physics or embeds and numerical quantities.
01:20:31 But it says that the the the fundamental unit of information, the bits you meet
01:20:37 and the most underlying factor and that's what the laws of physics
01:20:41 are as opposed to that's what the laws of physics can be described as.
01:20:46 You can have an equivalent equation. That's not the claim.
01:20:49 The claim is that it is the most fundamental
01:20:52 and you're dealing with the derivative.
01:20:55 Yeah. Yeah.
01:20:58 Okay.
01:20:59 Oh, I think all I can say is I don't see
01:21:02 a justification for that claim, although maybe I could be convinced in the future
01:21:05 unless those bits are doing something different from the laws of physics,
01:21:08 I don't really see that there's a question here, right?
01:21:12 If two things are equivalent, I don't think there's any valid way
01:21:14 to talk about which is more fundamental.
01:21:16 And I see the two as equivalent
01:21:19 in both be the same.
01:21:22 Then Allan appreciates the deep importance of information,
01:21:26 though he is no information evangelist.
01:21:29 I like his approach describing matter, energy
01:21:33 and information as almost the same thing.
01:21:37 That's why Allan is key in imposing possibility
01:21:40 that our universe is a simulation running
01:21:44 on some cosmic computer
01:21:47 here.
01:21:48 I don't think that makes a difference.
01:21:49 On the one hand,
01:21:50 the universe is simulation is a possibility that cannot be rejected.
01:21:55 If the universe is a computer and information is primary as portrayed on it.
01:22:00 On the other hand, it must be reversed versus simulation would confirm
01:22:04 Reductionism is the idea that everything, including
01:22:08 consciousness, is fan of the use to be bad because it can't even be great.
01:22:12 Grateful Dead or faint bands like jam bands.
01:22:15 So can Kisch help corroborate the claim that festival band Fundamental
01:22:20 Jam Band to me is that even if physics finds that
01:22:23 finally they take a three minute radio song
01:22:25 and play it for 20 minutes at the concert, I love that.
01:22:28 How do we. But I don't that's not I mean, right
01:22:31 now in a
01:22:32 radically in theory, information is like jingles.
01:22:36 I saw them in concert
01:22:39 for two and a half hours.
01:22:39 They never stop playing.
01:22:41 One of them didn't really overplay the chief signing.
01:22:43 A lot of times they were just went boom while he was talking with them.
01:22:45 The energy went up and didn't stop until the show was over.
01:22:49 The Grateful Dead and you know, with information
01:22:53 has thunders. Yeah, yeah.
01:22:55 But as something that gives donors a bad fundamental I do like
01:22:59 psychedelic sounds of like Pink Floyd's structure of the universe.
01:23:03 Structurally, all of these sounds like information came to
01:23:06 the Austrian was a little insulting to people.
01:23:09 I think he's Austrian and part of the universe.
01:23:12 We need.
01:23:13 We need actually the guy who does my one of
01:23:16 my favorite podcasts is the Hollinger of the most.
01:23:19 He sounds like that.
01:23:21 Think he'd actually worked and thought cookie dough or.
01:23:23 Yeah.
01:23:24 The only German in the universe.
01:23:26 I don't know what gravity and like got the rolls is gravity
01:23:30 gravity turn off the size I don't feel of
01:23:35 I thought he sounded like Arnold Schwarzenegger.
01:23:37 That needs to be explained by sort of some sort of intrinsic information
01:23:43 intrinsic information principle.
01:23:44 How interesting that so that Adolf Hitler was Austrian, not German.
01:23:48 My only reality is what Queen Elizabeth was German, not British.
01:23:53 It is sort of the light inside my head.
01:23:54 Foreigners, fucking foreigners is is I'm a foreigner.
01:23:58 Foreigner is a pretty good band.
01:24:00 Most people are foreigners aided by this complex brain.
01:24:03 Yes, most people.
01:24:04 Billion years of all, except for those ones that claim to be native world.
01:24:08 Yeah, they didn't.
01:24:09 They were matha and being born here a trail of tears led to Oklahoma.
01:24:14 That that gives rise to to experience and experience once again.
01:24:18 The only way I or anybody else knows about the world.
01:24:22 Okay, but does that mean information is a way of describing
01:24:25 what you see or is information
01:24:29 what sits below
01:24:30 everything that you see and gives rise to everything is a big difference.
01:24:34 It is not just used to describe
01:24:37 reality.
01:24:38 I think it is an it is an irreducible aspect.
01:24:42 It's an it's a it's an imminent it's an image that I did not in order to fully
01:24:48 clean.
01:24:48 Did you I posit you need space time and I can ask how I peed you need
01:24:52 you didn't ask anything.
01:24:53 I don't want to share where what came to my head when you said that
01:24:55 but I think that I immediately thought that you need more water.
01:24:59 Oh, oh, like the trickle coming directly out of my penis.
01:25:02 Any anytime I've had to pee.
01:25:03 It's just as fundamental as charge.
01:25:05 And then I didn't have any of that in elementary.
01:25:08 I made sure I didn't drink for days and I eat asparagus and broccoli
01:25:12 for relationship. You're gonna make me pee.
01:25:13 You're going to pay for me.
01:25:14 My pee was like you would from within my own cloth, ultimately.
01:25:18 Here you go.
01:25:19 Wow. In some sense.
01:25:20 So you can say, like, you need to go right to the doctor and see all the I didn't.
01:25:24 It's the mathematical reality that gives rise to to to a to you, though
01:25:29 I'm saying that ultimately, yes, I live here.
01:25:32 I'm not down with taking biological samples.
01:25:35 Did they make you feel like a criminal right now?
01:25:37 I was in the clinic. Or was it a nice new question?
01:25:39 I hear your voice is still there.
01:25:40 I mean, they I have to try to be polite, but because when I
01:25:43 when I went a while ago, that experience, it was like employee,
01:25:47 employee, employee, criminal, criminal employee, criminal probation.
01:25:52 She was like, So that's funny, But felt like I was in jail.
01:25:55 Conscious expunging, you want to watch of reality.
01:25:58 And she just said it like it was Matter of fact, we have to like physics.
01:26:02 So you can
01:26:02 you can she had me empty out my pockets so I'd get rid of my monkey flask.
01:26:06 Quantum mechanics. Can you imagine a universe?
01:26:09 She told her, if I'm keeping anything, it's right against my skin.
01:26:11 So it stays body temperature. Yeah, It's.
01:26:14 I microwave the universe in security theater.
01:26:16 Same thing. We never knew you went into this information.
01:26:19 Your authorized to to to consciousness.
01:26:21 No, I didn't want masking agent.
01:26:23 I didn't want synthetic what's fundamentally out of my penis.
01:26:26 What's bedrock in the grand my urethra, a hole at the tip of my penis.
01:26:30 So the only test you may get as a taste test?
01:26:33 Yeah, I sprayed everywhere in the fundamental building.
01:26:36 She said you're supposed to go into the bathroom
01:26:39 to thank you.
01:26:40 You said the filter line.
01:26:41 Are you ready?
01:26:42 Are you ready to pee?
01:26:42 First
01:26:44 relationship like I had to pee so bad.
01:26:47 Can you fill this up? Not from here.
01:26:49 Right? Exactly.
01:26:50 No. I had to hold it further away because I had.
01:26:52 I mean, for coffee.
01:26:53 I had to go.
01:26:54 I got to ask, then I had to turn it off.
01:26:56 I was going to say, what did you do?
01:26:57 Did room my question, because that's always like, what do you do?
01:27:00 I can't turn it off.
01:27:02 So I just move over as fast as I can and they get a messy cup.
01:27:05 Yeah.
01:27:06 And again, part of the thrill because I am not I'm sorry that that's their job.
01:27:09 No, I stopped it at the line, inherited it was a little painful.
01:27:13 And then I went and I was told not to flush pee conversations
01:27:16 going right over the
01:27:18 it wasn't even ducking water for we have to have the conversation again.
01:27:22 Oh, okay.
01:27:23 So I do like peeing and sneezing.
01:27:27 Well, that's nature when you pee.
01:27:29 There's so many
01:27:31 words.
01:27:31 Euphoria. What's the word?
01:27:33 Nerve? Not nerve endings.
01:27:35 I'm literally nature makes
01:27:38 sure it feels great when you pee to make sure that you continue to pee.
01:27:41 This is peeing in, like, breathing and involuntary.
01:27:44 Yeah, like nest building.
01:27:45 It's part of our genetics.
01:27:47 It's information contained in. Is it?
01:27:50 Is it triggered by involuntary or
01:27:54 voluntary?
01:27:55 Do you have to pee or did you or do you have to not pee?
01:27:58 Can you keep your eyes open with sneeze?
01:28:00 I Can you can. Yeah.
01:28:02 And not not by holding them.
01:28:04 I there's no way I'm going to sneeze right now and I don't want to start it.
01:28:07 It is so weird that balls won't fly out when I look at the
01:28:12 the sun and it makes me sneeze.
01:28:15 Yes, that works for me.
01:28:16 It doesn't always work out a blink, but
01:28:19 if any bright light I like, I don't even see the connection.
01:28:25 Why? Why am I doing that?
01:28:27 That's involuntary.
01:28:29 Oh, just so look in the physical exam,
01:28:32 when you hit the knee and your leg pops up.
01:28:34 I didn't cause it to do that.
01:28:35 No, your brain did the same thing that Drew
01:28:37 does, drawing everything you see in my brain.
01:28:39 Part of me, your brain is the only you.
01:28:42 I think the rest is just a vehicle to get the brain around.
01:28:44 I think at one point in time we were,
01:28:46 you know, like the brains in the jar, all those cartoons and stuff.
01:28:49 Yeah.
01:28:49 Whatever alien species we are, we are the brain.
01:28:52 The brain made biological material body like a mac.
01:28:57 Yeah.
01:28:57 To get itself around because it found it was, you know,
01:29:00 it would die on the side of the road, just a little dried up.
01:29:02 I think I'm more than just my brain.
01:29:04 But not, not all you do is feed your brain.
01:29:06 I mean, like everything you do is or your brain, but not Cartesian
01:29:10 like duality where I'm not my body mind in spirit.
01:29:14 I think I'm.
01:29:16 No, I think it's just the brain right?
01:29:19 All the information is there.
01:29:21 It doesn't nothing else. The stored is those are those banks of memory.
01:29:23 Are they stored in your big.
01:29:24 That does remind me Descartes got a lot of things named after, you know, Cartesian.
01:29:28 Everything is Descartes and
01:29:31 Plato got the platonic solids.
01:29:33 And I mean, and when you hear platonic, that means from Plato.
01:29:38 And then I kept mention
01:29:41 all the classes Demon, Schrödinger's
01:29:44 cat, Pavlov's dog
01:29:47 flags rant,
01:29:50 and I throw myself in there right up there.
01:29:52 Kind of defect.
01:29:54 Yeah.
01:29:54 Okay.
01:29:57 This just in.
01:30:00 I, I got a new job.
01:30:08 I can not disclose where the location is, but It is
01:30:12 the hour made her of her company,
01:30:16 so you can just look it up and go drive there right now.
01:30:19 You said you weren't going to disclose that.
01:30:21 And I not disclose that. I know.
01:30:23 Oh, did you know what I mean?
01:30:26 I know you're not quite the same level, but that case Senate
01:30:30 did something similar that and he created he started a riot in New York City.
01:30:34 Yeah, but I'm I'm talking to 51 people.
01:30:37 So you guys make rubbers?
01:30:38 Yes. Yes.
01:30:40 Contraceptives.
01:30:42 It's actually to reduce vibrations in automotive industry.
01:30:48 It's a it's a true Detroit. Do you care?
01:30:51 Did you have you been through all the videos that make you care?
01:30:53 Yeah,
01:30:55 I care because it's what it's
01:30:58 who starts a new career path at age 50.
01:31:01 This guy.
01:31:03 So I go, I'm starting from scratch.
01:31:05 I'm going from being top dog at Snapple,
01:31:12 which isn't even partly true.
01:31:15 But the delivery drivers are kings of the warehouse
01:31:19 and of the kings of the warehouse.
01:31:20 I am the King.
01:31:21 Do you load your own truck at Staples?
01:31:24 I do not have to do that. A halo driver.
01:31:26 Does that forego that?
01:31:27 That's enough right there for the status.
01:31:29 Do you sit in the truck with your feet up?
01:31:31 Oh, yeah.
01:31:32 Smoke a cigar.
01:31:33 The truck, They're loaded.
01:31:34 When you get there, it's it's either ready for me
01:31:36 or I show up a half hour later the next day.
01:31:38 And you're not happy if it's not loaded?
01:31:39 Because if it's not loaded properly, I can be all pissy.
01:31:43 Because you loaders change all the time because they're like day laborers or
01:31:46 Mexicans, whatever you want to call.
01:31:48 I get my pick of the litter, but the litter?
01:31:50 Yeah. Hint?
01:31:52 Yeah.
01:31:52 Don't call your subordinates animal pet names.
01:31:55 Oh, do you want to treat Brady?
01:31:59 Do you have to go outside potty?
01:32:01 So anyways, you were. He's a good boy.
01:32:03 You're going to be the dog getting treats offered at your new job.
01:32:06 You were saying?
01:32:06 Yeah. I'm going from being here.
01:32:08 You're excited He came to look, man.
01:32:11 You know what, though?
01:32:11 From my experience, because I do that all the time, being a subcontractor,
01:32:15 subcontractor or whatever.
01:32:17 Yeah, you're the independent contractor all the time, But sometimes I people under
01:32:21 and I've been in other places long time and new clients
01:32:24 I enjoy
01:32:25 showing up
01:32:26 and being the lowest on the totem pole because I get paid the same as long as
01:32:30 unless you took a significant pay decrease.
01:32:32 I did then like seven an hour.
01:32:35 It goes along with it though, as long as you can sustain it.
01:32:37 I'm trying to be positive here. Yeah,
01:32:40 you. You'll really enjoy the lesser.
01:32:42 Although I don't know how much you had to think at your delivery job.
01:32:45 Just do the same thing over and over again at that too.
01:32:48 Right.
01:32:48 So you're able body is obviously equipped for I've got a buck 39 IQ.
01:32:53 I don't mind thinking
01:32:55 and you're free to think.
01:32:57 Okay, thanks.
01:32:58 Right. Appreciate that.
01:33:00 No, I mean, your job. Like my job.
01:33:02 I can't think about what I want to think about
01:33:04 because almost all my bandwidth is exhausted, trying to figure out the
01:33:08 stupid problem that the jackass before me screwed up.
01:33:10 Yeah. No, I'm sorry. I mean, the client.
01:33:12 No one can exhaust my
01:33:15 intellect.
01:33:16 I think you'll do just fine.
01:33:18 Oh, or it's the first day I need it.
01:33:20 I need it because, man, have you ever done it?
01:33:23 Nope. You said to press the button.
01:33:25 I have worked three jobs in my life.
01:33:28 I was a pizza maker.
01:33:29 I was a pizza maker.
01:33:30 I was a grocery buyer.
01:33:33 I'm not sure what that means.
01:33:34 I am a grocery buyer, but I don't get paid for it.
01:33:36 I have to pay them. Yeah.
01:33:39 I was a department head at a health food store.
01:33:42 That's it.
01:33:43 I had like three guys under me, big up
01:33:47 and delivery driver.
01:33:49 I mean, that's this blue collar as it gets.
01:33:53 I was like the go to
01:33:56 ask ask
01:33:58 any of my half of our viewership is coworkers.
01:34:01 I'm saying this
01:34:03 to people that can defy me if it's not true.
01:34:06 And to shrink that chair, it's getting a little too big.
01:34:09 Carry on. Are we getting a lot of comments?
01:34:11 Because I can't chat?
01:34:12 Yeah, it's never asked me to verify my account.
01:34:15 I typed in phone number, it sent me the code, it said invalid.
01:34:19 And I didn't didn't
01:34:20 without giving me a chance to type in my code to chat on Rumble.
01:34:23 If you have an idiot, are you sure
01:34:26 I might
01:34:27 be the most retarded genius there is?
01:34:31 That seems
01:34:33 what's the opposite of redundant.
01:34:34 I'm a little retarded that seems counter.
01:34:37 I'm sure you can't say retarded three times in the last minute.
01:34:41 You can say anything you want.
01:34:43 I think we just did it.
01:34:45 That's one thing I don't like. If I. If I.
01:34:47 If I'm a bigot or if I'm retarded or if I'm racist.
01:34:51 Right.
01:34:52 And when I say me, I mean anyone in the world.
01:34:54 Yeah. You want to know? I want to know.
01:34:57 I want to know, right? Yeah.
01:34:58 You can't hurt my feelings.
01:35:00 So, like, if you don't like racists, I'm not racist.
01:35:03 But if what I'm saying makes you think I'm racist, then don't listen to me.
01:35:07 Pretty simple, pretty empowering.
01:35:09 Once you realize that, I'm like, Wait, I have legs
01:35:13 and they work opposite mine.
01:35:16 Yeah, right, Right.
01:35:17 So shut the fuck up.
01:35:19 Yeah, That's not you know, that's my big complaint about wheelchair people.
01:35:23 What are they doing? Just sitting there.
01:35:26 So can
01:35:27 you get we wrap that up on a nice little bow.
01:35:30 We rationalized racism and then you went right to the cripple.
01:35:33 Yeah. I'm sorry, I.
01:35:35 No, I mean physically challenged.
01:35:38 No, I would lose in a year.
01:35:40 Definitely disabled,
01:35:42 you know, if if a disabled kids wants to start some crap.
01:35:45 I mean, you should punch somebody in a wheelchair.
01:35:47 They want to be treated the same. Exactly.
01:35:49 As long as you're not punching down, you got to like I.
01:35:51 Look, I look on your knees. I like my chair.
01:35:53 I like my odds against it.
01:35:54 Like a Down's syndrome girl,
01:36:01 That should be a thing.
01:36:04 Down's Syndrome
01:36:07 ramp, Down's syndrome rants.
01:36:10 We went off the rails.
01:36:11 We should get a get. We should get.
01:36:14 I'm going to stop.
01:36:15 Would be fun.
01:36:17 I I think that's
01:36:18 and I mean that honestly a treating them equal rather than them
01:36:24 in them rant not calling them them in support.
01:36:27 What did you.
01:36:28 I don't do that. I can't do that.
01:36:29 What do you want to do? How do you want to move it?
01:36:31 Well, that Oh yeah.
01:36:33 Then you got to move that arcade machine out of the way
01:36:34 because removing it like that's, that's all fine.
01:36:38 Or you can just do this and then move it and then move it back.
01:36:42 Can go down or down.
01:36:44 But you're taller. You want to know.
01:36:46 I want to play the game.
01:36:47 We're going to play the game.
01:36:48 Yeah, we got to play the game
01:36:50 and we're going to play, uh, snowboard kids, too.
01:36:54 I'm going to take it easy on you this time. No,
01:36:58 that's not me doing that.
01:36:59 It's doing it all by itself.
01:37:00 I can.
01:37:01 I can take over
01:37:06 where
01:37:07 that one looks. Good.
01:37:08 Elastic answer.
01:37:10 There it is.
01:37:13 Woohoo!
01:37:15 You couldn't do it, could you? No, it does.
01:37:17 It does.
01:37:19 It's happening.
01:37:21 All right.
01:37:21 Got to make sure you hold that up there.
01:37:24 Okay?
01:37:25 I put on my mute what I've done.
01:37:27 Don, let me turn off the new lead.
01:37:29 Ding dong.
01:37:32 Who are you in Ohio?
01:37:35 Yeah. How do you know that?
01:37:36 Because I've been watching you.
01:37:38 Well, I went to Ohio,
01:37:39 and then I went back to Michigan, and then I went back to Ohio.
01:37:43 Oh, my God.
01:37:44 Oh, wow.
01:37:46 Cleveland Rocks Cleve, The Drew Carey Show.
01:37:50 All right.
01:37:51 So do you have any new information?
01:37:54 No, not really. Other than that information.
01:37:56 Okay. No, that was good information.
01:37:59 Fake news.
01:38:00 Information, misinformation, big news.
01:38:02 You should have probably just stayed in Ohio.
01:38:04 That was stupid.
01:38:06 No, no, not really. All right.
01:38:11 I was stupid information.
01:38:14 Yeah, Yeah, that's the thing.
01:38:15 There's no qualifier for information.
01:38:18 Well, I'm kind of disappointed because with the information,
01:38:21 it's like, well, what the fuck are you going to talk about?
01:38:22 So that's always, like, intriguing of how you're going to spin the topic, Right?
01:38:25 Right.
01:38:25 But I also feel like no one's like no one's Google search information.
01:38:30 They're searching, you know, and anarchy and yes, stone theory and stuff like that.
01:38:36 Yeah.
01:38:36 I don't know why you just don't call the episode
01:38:38 like something more intriguing, some more buzzworthy, more click click.
01:38:42 Baity
01:38:43 Like, just the information I have to go.
01:38:46 That's just my information. I have the Oh, no, I like it.
01:38:48 I like I consider everything constructive.
01:38:54 I consider everything.
01:38:55 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
01:38:57 If you consider everything,
01:38:58 then at least you're not ignoring some glaring thing that you should.
01:39:02 You shouldn't, shouldn't overlooking.
01:39:04 Well, I just thought you were going to go somewhere boring.
01:39:06 But then when you started talking
01:39:07 all kinds of shit, I was like, okay, I'm intrigued.
01:39:10 Well, thank you.
01:39:11 One thing I wanted to just randomly random friends information.
01:39:15 Have you guys, I'm sure maybe you've observed a little bit of it, but the
01:39:19 the suspended birds that are occasionally popping up in videos.
01:39:23 Have you guys seen the birds? Oh, the.
01:39:26 The ones that are just gliding.
01:39:27 Birds aren't real. No, they're just frozen in animation.
01:39:30 Oh, no way.
01:39:31 And there's videos of them and most of the time they're in like third world
01:39:34 countries are several videos of them.
01:39:36 But everyone on the street is like, just stopped and looked at a bird in the air.
01:39:40 Just paused there and some people are like,
01:39:43 Oh, maybe it's like caught in like a it's not moving.
01:39:46 It's like frozen.
01:39:47 The one that really kind of got me was there was it was a third world country
01:39:51 and a doing the pickup truck like fucking has a broom He he parked his pickup
01:39:56 truck is on the bed of his pickup truck and he goes that touch the broom
01:40:00 bird with the broom and the bird just starts flying as if like
01:40:03 nothing fucking happened. What in the hell.
01:40:06 Yeah.
01:40:06 So look at that and play that those video.
01:40:08 You know what I think his perspective playing tricks on me.
01:40:11 But know how airplane a jumbo jetliner flies 400 miles an hour.
01:40:15 It looks completely still to me in midair
01:40:18 like, I know I'm just being an idiot,
01:40:22 but that's like that kind of like is that bird thing.
01:40:25 At first I'm like, Yeah, okay, they can do trick photography and stuff.
01:40:28 Yeah, I saw several videos in there and like, kind of simple areas and
01:40:32 there is people that are reacting to it and there's almost
01:40:35 too many people randomly that there was it was kind of orchestrated.
01:40:39 And so and then the one where the guy touches the bird with the broom,
01:40:42 the bird starts to just continue as if like it was flying the entire time.
01:40:46 Let's take a look.
01:40:47 Quite weird, but I don't know if
01:40:49 that potentially ties into, you know, some simulation theory.
01:40:53 We're all just information.
01:40:54 We're playing a video right now.
01:40:56 Okay, well, I'm gonna hang up, but.
01:40:58 Oh, okay. Just a second.
01:41:00 I swear. I can see.
01:41:02 I can see it.
01:41:02 Swing it and I can see it's swinging on the wire right now.
01:41:05 Yeah, it's just hanging.
01:41:08 They tapped
01:41:08 into the pole, saw it swinging on the wire.
01:41:12 It's hanging.
01:41:13 It looks like it's hanging. Definitely hanging on the wire.
01:41:15 All of these videos, those are the one where the guy actually
01:41:18 touches it and it continues.
01:41:21 This is just.
01:41:22 Why is it there?
01:41:22 Like moving wires?
01:41:23 And this is just a new magic trick.
01:41:26 Yeah, that's it's going to be really neat until we figure it out.
01:41:32 No, that was cool.
01:41:33 I'm glad you brought that up.
01:41:34 Oh, there's a handful. There's a couple of videos.
01:41:36 Can we look up when I.
01:41:37 Behrooz, do back if you can, because of course information.
01:41:43 Okay, But it's still information.
01:41:44 I know Zachary is sitting there now.
01:41:47 I find that all Dr.
01:41:50 Steven Greer is, one of my favorite like informants, but he claims
01:41:55 to have had a near-death experience that he didn't get treated by a doctor.
01:41:59 He is a medical doctor.
01:42:02 There is no way his opinion could be He naturally healed himself after dying.
01:42:07 That's ludicrous. So.
01:42:10 So what makes you want to throw it?
01:42:12 Throw everything he says.
01:42:14 But what if there is a nugget of truth in Zacharias Hitchens research?
01:42:18 It's worth looking into.
01:42:19 It explains a lot of stuff.
01:42:21 I just don't think there's an extra planet.
01:42:23 It sounds too outlandish.
01:42:25 It does get to you.
01:42:26 Why would it still be attached to the gravitational pull if it's so large
01:42:31 and goes so far outside the bounds of our normal rotation of planets?
01:42:36 Like I agree, once you get far enough away
01:42:39 from a large gravity well, you're free of it.
01:42:44 And I think there would just
01:42:45 be too much evidence already in all the time
01:42:47 I've heard for the last 1015 years, however long that may be closer to time,
01:42:52 I guess, but however long that that theory is about, and as far as I've known it,
01:42:58 it keeps it's on its way.
01:43:00 It's still on its way and it's still on its way and well, it's still on its way.
01:43:05 Oh, can I.
01:43:06 Can I look out a telescope and see it yet?
01:43:08 No, but guess what? It's on way.
01:43:11 Oh, you know what?
01:43:12 A lot of religious
01:43:13 people are waiting for the second coming of their particular prophets.
01:43:17 Yeah, Yeah, It's.
01:43:19 Yeah, it's. It's not.
01:43:21 Well, this just in.
01:43:23 Words are freezing.
01:43:25 Let's take it. Looks like.
01:43:27 See, when he said freezing.
01:43:28 Freezing in midair.
01:43:30 I was thinking cold.
01:43:31 It's all frozen in time.
01:43:33 And here's the problem with freezing in time.
01:43:36 It can't happen.
01:43:37 I'll, I'll tell you why you can't.
01:43:41 It's sitting in one.
01:43:42 I don't know. Maybe toss something at it.
01:43:44 But they're really puzzled.
01:43:45 The whole right next is a if you're in a pocket of no time to be hit
01:43:51 with a broom, it would be opaque because light couldn't travel through it.
01:43:55 Frozen state, first of all,
01:43:58 actually plug in a flight of physics.
01:44:01 What's going on?
01:44:02 Like freezes and it can't fly anymore.
01:44:04 You think this one's flapping its wings?
01:44:06 I understand they get stuck.
01:44:07 Oh, I know the spin on this.
01:44:09 This is The Matrix barely moves.
01:44:11 We live in a simulation.
01:44:12 Let's make sure the next one gets passed by another bird. Why?
01:44:16 It literally stays in the exact same spot.
01:44:19 What do you think is actually going on? Holy crap.
01:44:21 That's really good footage.
01:44:22 That's really neat.
01:44:24 I just don't know how, like, how much these thoughts and ideas
01:44:29 are becoming more
01:44:29 and more or less and less brains and more and more mainstream, right?
01:44:34 Oh, a lot of stuff that was like, yeah, ridiculous.
01:44:37 A lot of stuff that was conspiracy theory nonsense is now fact, historical fact.
01:44:44 Oh, I'm sorry.
01:44:45 I can hear you. Yes, you're doing fine.
01:44:47 Doing great.
01:44:49 I can hear.
01:44:53 I just had a third testicle descend. Fat.
01:44:57 Really?
01:44:58 Yeah. It's information sharing.
01:45:00 So women going have
01:45:04 babies.
01:45:05 That's where babies go
01:45:09 over there.
01:45:09 Is there is something body, though.
01:45:10 There is a trans man that got pregnant and there like wasn't trans
01:45:14 man can be pregnant.
01:45:15 It's like, well, yeah, it's actually a woman.
01:45:18 It's actually a woman. Her.
01:45:19 Brilliant. I want to take you to Hamtramck.
01:45:21 Did you hear my rant about the little brown people?
01:45:24 I felt like a giant immune balloon flattened,
01:45:27 like I wanted to do blue, but now Daddy or I'll scream.
01:45:32 Last time I went to Hamtramck, I got the opposite.
01:45:35 They were all taller than you know.
01:45:38 I thought he was a little douchey, trimmed beard,
01:45:42 gay man in stupid shoes and on a bicycle.
01:45:45 Oh, yeah, because I told him to get out of the fucking street.
01:45:48 Oh, no kidding.
01:45:49 Oh, yeah.
01:45:49 Because he was riding his bicycle on the street,
01:45:51 which I don't agree with, but I understand the laws and that's fine.
01:45:54 But when you go from the streets and there's a red light,
01:45:57 you have over to the sidewalk, the cross into the
01:46:01 to cross at the crosswalk, then hop back into the street
01:46:03 and I have to pass you like four times in a fucking city street.
01:46:07 And I've got to like like there's not enough room to go around.
01:46:10 You and I come close to you every single time and you're
01:46:14 are you are you writing in the street or are you writing on the sidewalk?
01:46:16 Pick on the automotive industry.
01:46:18 Yeah. Needed jaywalking.
01:46:19 I went to park where I was going and he followed
01:46:22 and he like, was like circling the
01:46:23 I felt like I was in like fourth grade, like, was like the bully trying to, like,
01:46:27 circled me.
01:46:27 And he was like, I don't know, he they just started laughing at him.
01:46:31 Yeah. Yeah, that was it.
01:46:33 You had me that stupid shoes.
01:46:35 I hate their stupid, god dang sandals.
01:46:38 Who wears long pants no size all like them both shoes.
01:46:41 And it's like they're even worse.
01:46:44 People keep showing up in
01:46:45 those slides or glides or whatever they're called, like slippers wearing your
01:46:49 your shower slippers, children's beach shoes out in public.
01:46:53 What do you generation wears those in pajamas to school?
01:46:56 The whole pretty much it's Kanye West is which I don't care
01:47:01 what people say about Kobe West I still like to go I did you
01:47:05 he had his style of shoes that he was creating
01:47:09 with the weird soul that like is like the ass in the back.
01:47:12 Like it's got an extra lump, like where the whole soul is.
01:47:15 Like, that's kind of like the style of shoes nowadays, right?
01:47:20 I do, too.
01:47:21 It does look stupid.
01:47:22 Typically means you're getting older.
01:47:24 Yeah.
01:47:25 You kids get off my lawn.
01:47:28 That's useful information. Yeah.
01:47:32 I spent a lot of time on lawn care these days.
01:47:34 That is useful information.
01:47:35 If that was a change, the next thing is, Oh, wait, this is my lawn and I'll shoot
01:47:40 two or No, I don't shoot.
01:47:44 And what's the threat?
01:47:45 What if they don't get off your lawn? What are you going to do?
01:47:48 Yeah, I'll. I'll say it again.
01:47:50 You want to hear this again? My whole rant.
01:47:52 Go get a beer.
01:47:53 Even more?
01:47:53 Yeah, more belligerently.
01:47:55 We had occurred when I was a kid.
01:47:57 We had a guy in the corner. His name was Bob, and we used to cut.
01:48:00 There was a telephone pole, like, right where the where the sidewalk should be.
01:48:03 Yeah. So the sidewalk darted the wrong way.
01:48:06 So everyone cut two feet on his grass and wore like a path.
01:48:10 And and he was literally the literally the get off your lawn guy. Wow.
01:48:14 I put like a spiky blade there.
01:48:17 Don't believe in a so I didn't do it.
01:48:21 I don't do it I got it I got to know oh jurors on the side of the the old man
01:48:26 yeah that's because even though we're aware
01:48:28 right of your way or not, the grass is like, come on now.
01:48:31 Yeah, yeah.
01:48:32 Barry, don't fucking round the neighborhood,
01:48:34 round every single fucking corner you come across.
01:48:36 No, but I'll show you.
01:48:37 I'll show you where they put the telephone pole
01:48:40 and then you had to like practically cross half the street.
01:48:42 Or you could cut grass.
01:48:44 I mean, as a homeowner, I understand.
01:48:46 And as a kid, I understand.
01:48:48 I would.
01:48:48 I mean, was it his property or was it his his own property?
01:48:52 Yeah, it was
01:48:52 it was on a it was on his side, his house that his side of the sidewalk.
01:48:56 As a property owner, I completely understand.
01:48:58 But I would let it go or I would put
01:49:01 like sharp, spiky, pointy, stabby things.
01:49:04 Yeah, I would almost I would almost say the opposite.
01:49:06 I would probably they might create something, I guess
01:49:09 put a boulder put a boulder or a bush. Right.
01:49:11 There aren't a thorn, but they're nice looking.
01:49:14 But yeah, yeah.
01:49:15 No, he would just he just yells, Know my point my way about that up.
01:49:20 He would just look like a stone pebble path.
01:49:23 He would just yell at him, you know, like maybe put a scream.
01:49:28 Yeah, we're in this in San Francisco. Oh,
01:49:32 we're a stop and play hopscotch.
01:49:34 You want a damn queers, boy?
01:49:37 Oh, you're trying to lure children and I get it.
01:49:39 Oh, yeah.
01:49:40 And a bowl of candy and a puppet show over and some hopscotch.
01:49:45 And this trail of candy that leads in the backyard right where?
01:49:48 I parked my windowless van.
01:49:50 Santucci,
01:49:52 did we get off topic again?
01:49:54 This is all information.
01:49:55 It is all information. Good information.
01:49:59 I want Mount Rushmore of of top information exchanging devices.
01:50:03 I'll go first.
01:50:04 I'm going to say, okay, the pigeon.
01:50:07 Oh, that's a good one.
01:50:08 Okay. Okay.
01:50:10 Uh, the telegraph. Yes.
01:50:13 Beep, beep was a good, outdated one.
01:50:16 I like smoke signals.
01:50:18 Oh, yeah, I think.
01:50:21 I think you may have mentioned this.
01:50:22 Crystals.
01:50:24 You know how crystals.
01:50:25 Oh, is a weird thing. Yeah.
01:50:26 So the whole information with crystals and shit now
01:50:31 I don't understand it.
01:50:32 Like, to me, that's beyond, like, I don't understand how just a crystalline
01:50:36 object can, can on the information, but
01:50:41 I do.
01:50:42 I don't have much money invested, but I've been invested
01:50:45 in some random science companies and space companies.
01:50:49 One of them is actually sold last year, sold the first manufactured
01:50:54 crystal that was grown in space and growing it in space.
01:50:58 There is like less imperfections.
01:51:01 It so like if we're you know, we can get to a your mining space crystals
01:51:05 that I just said if you ever wanted to make perfect ball bearings so
01:51:09 yeah yeah zero gravity it'll form perfect spheres legends
01:51:14 and if you want to make a glass this hard steel, make it on the moon.
01:51:20 Zero atmosphere.
01:51:20 That's the oxygen that makes it brittle.
01:51:24 Yeah.
01:51:25 Information it's able to.
01:51:26 It's able to form with less bullshit.
01:51:30 Yeah.
01:51:31 Less things pulling on it and stressing it
01:51:33 and less atmosphere bullshit.
01:51:36 Right. Very interesting. Yeah,
01:51:41 but yeah, the crystals
01:51:41 that they've got, I mean, they've found like
01:51:45 skulls and just like different crystalline shit that
01:51:49 I don't know could potentially have information stored
01:51:52 in May now, but we don't know.
01:51:53 We know that they can store information.
01:51:55 We just don't know how to utilize it.
01:51:58 I'm not correct on that.
01:52:00 Oh yeah. Yeah.
01:52:01 If we could just decoded or read it or you somehow I think it would be neat
01:52:06 to decode and read like the way you would translate from a different language.
01:52:11 DNA, the genetic information.
01:52:13 Just read it as.
01:52:14 It would be, you know, translate it to binary and then into English.
01:52:18 And then you read a paragraph of what your genetics says for the proteins to do
01:52:24 and can't like.
01:52:26 There's too much I think there's too much the. Yeah.
01:52:28 Oh it is.
01:52:29 And you imagine birds knowing how to create a nest and all that shit.
01:52:34 I mean, every animal has it
01:52:35 in them, but I mean it's not something that's subject to just freaking birds.
01:52:39 Oh right.
01:52:41 We our, our bodies automatically
01:52:44 grow eyes and see with them and like, yeah, all kinds of weird shit.
01:52:48 We go from a tiny little frickin pebble size, you know,
01:52:54 fetus. I don't know. Want.
01:52:56 Is that considered a fetus or not?
01:52:58 I don't want to get into
01:53:00 a pro-choice or is off limits.
01:53:04 You're a fetus.
01:53:06 No, I think we should be allowed to kill children.
01:53:10 I just think we should.
01:53:11 We shouldn't have an age limit.
01:53:13 Oh, okay. Well, thank you for that.
01:53:15 Yeah, I think 317.
01:53:17 And you're like, I'm tired of this thing.
01:53:18 And it's like, now it's just one more year
01:53:20 and it's going to be 18 months out of your life.
01:53:22 Like, now I'm done with this right now. Yeah.
01:53:24 Abort it. Absolutely.
01:53:25 For no limit.
01:53:26 Thank you for that.
01:53:28 It's no different than aborting.
01:53:30 We go, in my opinion. I got a seven.
01:53:32 I got a 17 year old for what you do, right?
01:53:35 You do want to live.
01:53:39 I just want to make you feel bad about it.
01:53:40 Just for fun.
01:53:41 Not because I want you to change your mind.
01:53:43 I want you to, like, go through with it.
01:53:45 But then I, like, make you wonder, you know, point out the ridiculous
01:53:49 mythological stance.
01:53:50 I just want you to wonder and make you wonder if that's
01:53:53 what was the right decision the rest of your life.
01:53:56 Right. Right.
01:53:57 I want you to hold that.
01:54:01 Guilt is definitely a motivating tool.
01:54:04 I don't know if you can hear you.
01:54:05 Oh, that is how they do it, though. That is how they do it.
01:54:07 They do. He's responding like he can hear you and.
01:54:09 Oh, okay.
01:54:12 I can hear.
01:54:13 Okay, I, I can, but I'm sitting right here is beautiful soothing, going.
01:54:19 Yeah. I don't think I'm going to drive over here next one day.
01:54:21 I want to maybe I'll just quit my job.
01:54:24 My first day.
01:54:25 I have to build a factory.
01:54:27 Build a factory. Correct.
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01:54:32 And o'clock.
01:54:33 10:00? Yeah.
01:54:34 I'm a pro, so we just do.
01:54:36 10 to 12 would be great for me.
01:54:38 I just do a little bit.
01:54:39 Okay.
01:54:40 Okay.
01:54:40 We're going to do 10 to 12 next Monday.
01:54:43 I'll make sure you tell the rest of your fans that
01:54:47 that was.
01:54:48 That's what I was doing.
01:54:49 I know exactly what he was doing.
01:54:51 No, I'm. I'm my on air character.
01:54:53 I know I'm not a fan character. I know.
01:54:55 I know.
01:54:56 That's the problem.
01:54:57 Oh, we turned our only fan into a co-host.
01:55:00 Only thing you know, only fans
01:55:03 know this.
01:55:04 This week we really set a new record and it wasn't even our strongest work.
01:55:08 I think our strongest balls.
01:55:10 Honestly, it was it was interesting.
01:55:13 Last week's episode seemed to have a lot of steam, like early on,
01:55:17 even while you were recording it, like 17 people were arguing when you went off.
01:55:20 Right.
01:55:21 And I was kind of I was wondering, because we get to 60 by the next day,
01:55:25 it's debatable because sometimes that you've got that many people watching it.
01:55:29 It might be better to keep doing a little bit extra, more content,
01:55:33 but sometimes, like, you know,
01:55:35 leaving them wanting more is always a good thing too. So it's hard to
01:55:38 figure out what the best to do there.
01:55:40 Well, you know, we're going to spin for draw today. Okay.
01:55:43 This looking 17 people watching the last time they have a 260 by day two.
01:55:48 That was cool. I know it.
01:55:49 It was. Yeah.
01:55:50 But then it starts like for some reason
01:55:52 it was just like dead in the water after that. Here's the spin.
01:55:54 The top four. I got it.
01:55:56 I got shadow.
01:55:56 And after that, mental health.
01:55:59 Okay, you can, you can rebut this if you want, but
01:56:03 I have way too little sympathy, I'm told, for the people
01:56:07 with poor mental health because, you know, it is all you in your head.
01:56:11 And that's that's like the literal definition of
01:56:14 what we're talking about here. Crazy people,
01:56:19 they either require
01:56:21 help or medication or get your ass together.
01:56:25 Idiot.
01:56:26 Draw.
01:56:29 Yeah, I just don't subscribe to the mental health thing.
01:56:31 I don't think it's a thing.
01:56:33 But I said, pick yourself up
01:56:36 by your bootstraps and get your crap together.
01:56:39 Could be created.
01:56:40 Another excuse.
01:56:41 The crazy thing about
01:56:42 what I was listening to, but I'm starting somebody else's information here.
01:56:45 But I pretty much stating that
01:56:50 in the last five years, in the last ten years,
01:56:54 people who are going to therapy has increased like exponentially.
01:56:59 Meanwhile, we've had nothing but increases in people claiming mental health issues.
01:57:04 So if you're having an increase of people going to
01:57:07 combined with an increase of people claiming they have mental health issues,
01:57:10 that's telling you there is there that therapy does not work at all.
01:57:14 And something else is going on here. Right.
01:57:18 And I just think it has a lot to do with the Internet, in my opinion.
01:57:21 I think it just fits because going to see a mental health professional
01:57:25 is increases your likelihood of being diagnosed with poor mental health.
01:57:29 Yeah.
01:57:30 And they make a living off of treating you.
01:57:32 So there's already an incentive to treat you
01:57:35 and make you need mental health care.
01:57:38 And this is my dad.
01:57:39 My daughter's going to school to be don't know something with that.
01:57:43 So I also believe if there is a cure, you, you're never exactly going to them.
01:57:48 And that's the whole medical industry, pharmaceutical,
01:57:50 they all they make money off of treating more than they do the cure.
01:57:53 It's like here you come in once,
01:57:55 but for the record, I did talk to a therapist
01:57:58 and I told her I was honest with her
01:57:59 and she said, You absolutely, 100% do not need to see me again.
01:58:03 So I got that because, contrary to what I just said, that they may
01:58:07 there may be some that actually are honest and helpful also, right?
01:58:11 Yeah.
01:58:11 I don't know if it's just because I don't I don't live in that world.
01:58:14 I'm just so to it. I mean, you mentioned about
01:58:19 just not being able to
01:58:22 be convinced of shit
01:58:25 like because the fuck you guys are talking about early on.
01:58:28 But I liken it to when I was in high school,
01:58:33 the senior all night party there was a hypnotist and they were asking
01:58:37 for people to frickin raise their hand to be brought up on stage.
01:58:40 And I'm like, There's no way they probably got plants in the audience.
01:58:43 Well, guess what?
01:58:44 I get chosen.
01:58:45 And I'm like, I'm like, Holy shit, this is cool, right? Yes.
01:58:47 I'm like, going in like, one.
01:58:49 I'm like, I'm wondering how this is going to work
01:58:51 because, like, I don't I'm not obviously not a plant, right?
01:58:55 And so I'm sitting on stage and
01:58:59 he like, does this little thing.
01:59:00 He goes up to each one of us
01:59:02 and he's like, you know, close your eyes, you know, breathe a certain way,
01:59:05 tilt your head back. I'm three.
01:59:07 And like, I just
01:59:10 because I didn't know what else to do,
01:59:12 but I played along at first of like, I'm like when he walked away
01:59:16 because he was going down the line, like, I kind of, like, looked up and I'm like,
01:59:20 looking around and everyone around me is kind of like playing along.
01:59:23 And so he kind of turn around and come back.
01:59:25 So I go back and I pretend like I'm doing the thing.
01:59:28 And so I did that a few times.
01:59:29 I'll get the audience to laugh.
01:59:31 And then after he realized
01:59:32 what was going on, he's going to go back to my seat. Yep.
01:59:36 But I just don't know if that's just
01:59:38 I'm not susceptible to being convinced of random shit.
01:59:44 Like I'm not easily swayed.
01:59:46 Yeah, if you don't play along, you get dismissed.
01:59:49 I'm just an independent thinker and I don't know.
01:59:51 Those people are just kind of like suggestible sheep.
01:59:54 Cool. Maybe they're just. They're.
01:59:56 They're just.
01:59:57 They're easily.
01:59:59 You know, you could convince them, you know,
02:00:02 of anything.
02:00:05 I don't know.
02:00:05 Because then after the fact, I was outside and I heard people
02:00:09 that were on stage and they were like, Oh, yeah, I don't know, like
02:00:12 he just mentioned about being cold.
02:00:13 And I just felt really cold, like and even some of it was like, Oh, hey, it's hot.
02:00:18 It's really hot.
02:00:18 And everyone is on stage like, Oh my God, it's so hot.
02:00:21 The one dude, like, takes his shirt off, like, cause it's so hot and it's like,
02:00:24 What are you doing?
02:00:26 Like, I know these people, like, like.
02:00:27 And I'm just assuming, like, okay,
02:00:29 somebody told them in the back, they just play along, right?
02:00:32 I was. I was the only one. I got to sit down.
02:00:34 I don't know.
02:00:35 It was very confusing.
02:00:36 But I think people are just willing to play along.
02:00:39 They want to believe I want to believe that I want to go under hypnosis.
02:00:43 Why people are wired even. But I'm not going to.
02:00:46 Right.
02:00:46 But tarot card story I mentioned, it's like it's just so fake.
02:00:49 Like, right. You can't tell me. I can't go along with that.
02:00:52 I mean, please, please.
02:00:53 I would love for you to convince me. I want to go to a
02:00:58 paranormal frickin medium or whatever, and just.
02:01:02 Just walk around, just play a game,
02:01:05 or we need a table in a park.
02:01:08 Change my mind, have to fuck around to find out
02:01:14 information.
02:01:15 Mental health isn't isn't quantifiable either.
02:01:17 To go back to that if.
02:01:19 Oh, yeah, I forgot. That's where you take.
02:01:20 Yeah. Sorry. I try to.
02:01:21 I try to steer back when I can.
02:01:24 Like if you go in you can get an X-ray that shows your arm is broken
02:01:27 but there's no x ray to show that you have a mental health condition. It's
02:01:30 just based on some other generalization based on a grant you sensitive.
02:01:34 It's based on opinion, honestly and whatever.
02:01:38 Yeah.
02:01:38 Again, people are
02:01:39 people sway their doctors because they just like taking some drugs.
02:01:42 And so they go, Oh yeah, I have this issue like
02:01:47 I lost you there.
02:01:48 You know what's what I,
02:01:52 I just feel like
02:01:53 if I can't figure it out in my own brain, then maybe, like, I'm just stupid.
02:01:57 Like I've never subscribed to taking medications
02:02:02 other than we
02:02:05 I'm heavily medicated in that respect, but that's it for me.
02:02:09 Also, I don't even take ibuprofen and I'm self-medicating with Irish coffee,
02:02:13 but I like to drink.
02:02:15 And so I try to stay away from anything that's going to go
02:02:17 anything else that's going to go through my liver.
02:02:20 Oh, supporters are just rogue
02:02:23 to protect the golden goose
02:02:27 they could do.
02:02:27 That's why I quit smoking Cigarets.
02:02:28 I quit smoking weed. Yeah.
02:02:30 I told
02:02:34 Hold it.
02:02:34 Hold on a second.
02:02:35 And with me
02:02:39 it is Weird Al Yankovic is fantastic.
02:02:43 Oh, we just got the topic of accordions.
02:02:48 I think it's your turn.
02:02:51 Accordion?
02:02:52 Yeah. Accordions.
02:02:54 Like. Okay, I don't.
02:02:55 I don't mind.
02:02:56 Accordions are a weird instrument that I don't think anyone would play these days.
02:03:02 But occasionally when you do hear them in music
02:03:05 and I would say that there's two songs I can think of.
02:03:09 One of them is by Hotdog Buns called Serial Killer.
02:03:12 Nice, maybe Easy, Or was that a Hot Dog one song or Easy to a song?
02:03:15 I can't remember.
02:03:16 Serial killers and then
02:03:20 spelled serial like the food.
02:03:22 And then The Man Who sold the World
02:03:24 by Nirvana, which is actually a rendition of a Christian song.
02:03:28 But that was from their Unplugged,
02:03:29 which is probably in my top five albums of all time. But
02:03:34 it's great.
02:03:35 But it's so weird and such an oddball instrument who learns to play that shit?
02:03:39 And if you're a kid, learn to play that shit.
02:03:41 You are a fucking loser.
02:03:42 So despite it having a coolness
02:03:45 after the fact in certain music and stuff, it's You're a fagot.
02:03:48 I don't know. Right?
02:03:50 Yeah. I like an accordion.
02:03:52 I think it's somewhere between, like, as irritating as bagpipes and somewhere
02:03:57 between bagpipes and, like, a key to but towards the douchey rear
02:04:00 end of the keytar spectrum from the bagpipes.
02:04:04 Because I've got bagpipe bagpipes on my playlist.
02:04:09 Right.
02:04:10 Oh, like buried, I mean.
02:04:14 Yes. Yes, that's
02:04:15 exactly what I'm talking about.
02:04:19 But a lot of people find that annoying
02:04:23 bagpipes electronic that they generate for
02:04:28 people who are here that
02:04:30 probably not not directly
02:04:34 hear them.
02:04:34 We're arguing. Okay. Right.
02:04:38 This dude is masterful,
02:04:40 but I think we know Yankovic's put on some good accordion.
02:04:44 I'm stupid. I.
02:04:44 I always thought the keys were shaped like a piano, but that is clearly not.
02:04:48 Not no.
02:04:48 It looks more like a typewriter keyboard.
02:04:51 You having a human like the hair,
02:04:54 like a burka?
02:04:56 Yeah. It's amazing. It's absolutely amazing.
02:04:57 But I'm so tired of it already.
02:04:59 And the error.
02:05:00 I think he was inflating it like back.
02:05:02 But I think if anything, it sounds worse to me than accordion is bagpipe.
02:05:05 When you walk it, it's going to be good.
02:05:07 That's what I meant.
02:05:08 And again, he's amazing, but I can't pretend I'm just thinking of
02:05:11 and I mentioned key to her because like draw, I thought those were shaped
02:05:15 like piano keys or like you did like me Thriller.
02:05:18 Yeah. Why? Co-host anybody who isn't them?
02:05:21 I just.
02:05:21 I'm learning about you. There's Gary, and then there's everyone else.
02:05:24 Yeah, it is.
02:05:25 We're all NPC non-player characters. Yes.
02:05:29 NPC Olympics and Gary's world similarly.
02:05:32 Yeah, that's, that's why I'm saying like this in simulation theory,
02:05:35 the non-player characters will go along with hypnosis
02:05:38 because what do they have to think for themselves for You tell them how to think,
02:05:44 right?
02:05:45 You do. Or maybe I did.
02:05:47 I can't subscribe to it.
02:05:49 I don't subscribe to it.
02:05:50 But I did think of a weird theory of like, say, what if
02:05:55 the universe around us
02:05:56 is actually just created specifically for us?
02:05:59 Like, the only reason I'm talking to you right now is because it is catered.
02:06:04 Either to me or my conscious is wanting to interact.
02:06:08 And so I've created you in my own, like,
02:06:12 I don't know, Matrix.
02:06:13 That's cool.
02:06:14 You're getting close to sophistry, but then how would that make sense to you?
02:06:18 Because then you would like because I can't
02:06:20 I don't know your internal perspective.
02:06:22 I can only assume it.
02:06:23 And so since I can assume it, you could literally just be,
02:06:26 you know, like an NBC kind of what you're saying, right?
02:06:29 Yeah,
02:06:32 I heard it's tricky.
02:06:33 You I've decided there are no non-player characters.
02:06:36 The trick is, you would never know if it was programed.
02:06:38 Well, if you run well enough, right, I might be an NPC
02:06:43 as far as as far as I can tell.
02:06:45 But no, if you look closer at every single person
02:06:48 that you might suspect is an NPC, like start following them.
02:06:53 Oh yeah.
02:06:55 I want to see the level of and and see the rest of their interactions
02:06:58 and you will realize not one of the people you thought was an NPC
02:07:02 is actually one because they have all the same stuff going on as you do.
02:07:07 So it's a multiplayer where everybody has their own character.
02:07:10 This there's a really there's a real you can test this theory
02:07:14 so we don't need to, to, to discuss like is it this way or that way.
02:07:19 We know that it's that that way we know that.
02:07:22 And you and you said what holds it in store is it is the DNA
02:07:26 that's the hard drive that has all the like right now.
02:07:29 My 3D printer is over there doing amazing things, but it's chemical.
02:07:32 The molecular it might even be quantum in nature.
02:07:36 The structure is is just a bunch of trying to is doing
02:07:39 nothing with the firmware the DNA so to speak.
02:07:42 The information is what's programing it to the pin to the
02:07:46 to the it's gotten taller
02:07:48 fourth of the whole time the 3D printers have been printing our fantasy
02:07:51 football league trophy and it's gotten significantly taller.
02:07:55 It's a four day build
02:07:58 and it's gotten significantly taller in just the 2 hours.
02:08:00 But without the electrical impulses, it's just a hunk of metal.
02:08:03 It's not smart.
02:08:04 You've been in my fantasy football 3D printer.
02:08:07 I was thinking of a regular printer and I'm like,
02:08:10 What are you going to bring people together?
02:08:12 Like with No, the 3D printers.
02:08:14 He's laying out a whole goddamn thing.
02:08:17 You got fucking Mr.
02:08:18 Windsor over there, right?
02:08:19 If you look over his right shoulder, it's got the flash.
02:08:21 Durant's placard.
02:08:24 Oh, yeah, because you're talking on the phone with me.
02:08:26 Oh, yeah.
02:08:27 Well, I'm going to hang up on you anyway, so I want to posture one more thing.
02:08:31 Hit me.
02:08:31 So in the information, I've always found it.
02:08:33 And that goes back to, like,
02:08:37 the skull crystals throwing information on crystals.
02:08:39 Right on. Okay.
02:08:40 I just think the human brain in itself
02:08:44 being a storage facility and we only like
02:08:48 I've always looked at like robotics and stuff like that, that
02:08:53 we design robots based off of like our own
02:08:58 and how they work, right?
02:09:00 Yeah, expanding and contracting a bit.
02:09:02 But that also is just kind of logical in general how you would get
02:09:06 a person, any arm to move another, you know?
02:09:09 Right.
02:09:09 But I always look at the robotic spectrum and like the possibility
02:09:14 of having a robotic human, a full bodied human made out of a robot.
02:09:19 Right.
02:09:20 And we would build it exactly how we were.
02:09:22 We are built like it would have exhaust, it would need fuel.
02:09:26 So I look at us as like organic robots.
02:09:31 Yes. And we could potentially build an organic robot.
02:09:35 I would assume so, yes.
02:09:37 I forget I think in the last episode that you mentioned something about
02:09:42 we were in Interstellar, which we are, but
02:09:45 if we were to travel to Mars and create a colony,
02:09:48 we would need, you know, something that can replicate itself.
02:09:51 Yes, maybe it was a video you guys were playing.
02:09:53 But yeah, I mean, essentially we are self replicating.
02:09:58 Yeah, we are.
02:09:59 We so that is kind of what we are.
02:10:01 So I kind of thought that was kind of ironic because most of
02:10:05 the time you think it would be a robot that could build another robot, right?
02:10:10 It's actually an organism that can birth another organism.
02:10:13 So that's kind of what we already are.
02:10:15 So yes again, that pushes it back to like maybe we are beings from elsewhere in the
02:10:20 universe, But, you know, that doesn't help answer the question though.
02:10:24 Spread out
02:10:25 and just question the question of why do we exist and how do we get here?
02:10:29 It just it just pushes the answer so far out of reach
02:10:34 that it's not it's not even feasible anymore to get there.
02:10:39 I don't know if there's like a why are we here?
02:10:42 I don't think that there's like a generalized purpose.
02:10:43 We're just here.
02:10:45 Like no one said, like, oh, you needed to do this.
02:10:47 This was your destiny.
02:10:48 Like, I hate when people say, Oh, this was my destiny.
02:10:50 LeBron was meant to be in you to play basketball.
02:10:52 It's like, Oh, it was.
02:10:53 And you just happened to be a good athlete. Shut the fuck up.
02:10:55 There's no destiny.
02:10:57 No God's placed you here and went, Oh, you're going to be the Well,
02:11:00 what if what if he was born in an era before there was basketball?
02:11:04 What a waste of the Lord.
02:11:07 He would not have been wasted.
02:11:09 He would be the best slave to be had a new.
02:11:12 We go there.
02:11:13 I know.
02:11:14 I think if Trump gets reelected, we're bringing slavery back, right?
02:11:18 It's not that we're okay.
02:11:21 Oh, when I was in Columbus, it was hilarious. There was nothing but like,
02:11:25 Democrat signs
02:11:26 all over the place, and I was just waiting for that one rival.
02:11:29 But I didn't realize how close to Columbus I was.
02:11:31 And then when we got outside, there was nothing but Republican banter everywhere.
02:11:35 So yep. That's why I want you to vote early.
02:11:38 The Democrats want you to vote no on cities are blue,
02:11:41 rural areas are red.
02:11:45 It's a false dichotomy.
02:11:48 I'm still hanging up my
02:11:52 nails draw everyone, draw graph.
02:11:57 I do love it when he calls, even if he contradicts me.
02:12:00 He did a couple of times there and I'm not hurt
02:12:08 just because
02:12:08 he's wrong and I'm right in every case when I use that.
02:12:11 To sum up your information, I do.
02:12:16 Oh no, I wanted to just talk about the and and he
02:12:21 now Behrooz coming back and
02:12:25 I'm starting a cult.
02:12:27 Are they driving on that little tic tac thing?
02:12:29 No, that's manmade,
02:12:32 but man isn't it doesn't exist.
02:12:34 That's just some matrix illusion.
02:12:36 That's because we're in a simulation, That's all.
02:12:40 Put together by the mushrooms.
02:12:43 They were just thrown by the new knocking.
02:12:46 There we go. Nice, tiny bow.
02:12:48 Put a bow right on top it.
02:12:50 No Here's the thing about the gold.
02:12:52 Thing is these are old translations of, like, old of things.
02:12:57 And Zacharias
02:12:59 wasn't talking crap.
02:13:02 And then come to find out the gold foil is exactly what we used
02:13:05 to block out radiation on the Apollo 11 mission.
02:13:09 And you know aluminum particulates.
02:13:11 There's our chem trails.
02:13:13 I mean, we're doing exactly what they're talking about.
02:13:16 And when that was written, even that wasn't a thought.
02:13:22 It wasn't even a thought.
02:13:30 What you got?
02:13:32 I don't like Tom Petty, if that helps you.
02:13:38 Oh, it doesn't.
02:13:40 Any information.
02:13:42 Information?
02:13:44 Who are you, I think is Bruce Dickinson.
02:13:46 That's the greatest.
02:13:48 He's got a Ph.D.
02:13:50 or some crappy one.
02:13:53 He married, so he's got five words attributed to him.
02:13:57 He's a great man, very accomplished in Dickinson.
02:14:01 And he's aided, I think, once rocker.
02:14:07 But Iron Maiden belongs
02:14:09 in the the conversation about information.
02:14:13 I know my Mount Rushmore of rock bands
02:14:17 because I don't even care about rolling to to the 300 elementary particles
02:14:21 in the universe that what great Def
02:14:24 Leppard Motley Crue,
02:14:27 Van Halen I mean these these bands deserve mention.
02:14:30 But my my list is close.
02:14:32 My whole four horsemen are sealed.
02:14:34 Didn't you do that last week? Yeah, you do that last week.
02:14:37 But you just played Iron Maiden and Andy deserve mention I mentioned them.
02:14:42 Oh, did you? I sure did. Oh, what? Judas Priest?
02:14:45 No, really, I think they're a top 40 metal band.
02:14:49 It's not.
02:14:49 I'm going to get crucified, hopefully in the comments.
02:14:52 Judas Priest is not all there.
02:14:55 He's got a great voice, his falsetto and all that good stuff.
02:14:58 A classically trained singer, talented.
02:15:01 That's why I said falsetto.
02:15:02 Okay. That the the, uh, you know.
02:15:05 Oh, I think Phil Anselmo of Pantera has some pipes.
02:15:10 Yeah, but still, maybe it's just my generation.
02:15:13 If I was born a little sooner, I probably would've like Judas Priest
02:15:17 more than I don't know his name, but the lead
02:15:18 singer of familiarity, like, makes me like Pantera more.
02:15:23 Judas Priest is especially what's up with the leather and the
02:15:27 caps and stuff.
02:15:28 They're a little bit, uh.
02:15:30 What do you mean?
02:15:31 Axl Rose stuffed his pants.
02:15:34 Stuffed his pants with Judas Priest.
02:15:36 Yeah, he did.
02:15:37 No, that was just the look you mentioned leather pants.
02:15:40 So I mentioned the most ridiculous thing.
02:15:42 Like Axl, would, like, wear those red
02:15:45 stretchy pants with the balled of soccer in the front Van Halen two.
02:15:49 Yeah, they all did that one he had.
02:15:52 You had to promise to do that. Ah. You weren't allowed stage
02:15:55 and the long hair and the
02:15:57 tattoos you would have a 300 bit and even a bandana.
02:16:00 He's gonna throw in a red bandana somewhere.
02:16:02 So we'll, let's take that.
02:16:03 He just for me said the size of DNA second integrated
02:16:09 dirt little bitty
02:16:10 there about two to the 300 elementary particles of the universe
02:16:13 that means if each particle had a bar code, you would have a 300 bit
02:16:16 barcode to label each particle in the universe.
02:16:20 So we're let's take a very tiny chunk of the universe, like 300 electron
02:16:23 is it's much, much, much, much smaller than the universe.
02:16:27 This chunk of 300 electrons could do two to the 300 different things.
02:16:31 So even a tiny fraction of the universe can do more
02:16:34 things than there are elementary particles in the universe as a whole.
02:16:38 Oh. Oh.
02:16:40 Now, if in fact our universe had a potential.
02:16:43 Yeah, a lot, then it should be entirely positive.
02:16:45 Makes me feel very happy.
02:16:47 Supercomputers want to mass to simulate whole
02:16:53 tiny autonomy to me doesn't mean completely isolated.
02:16:56 It just means the ability to do kind of what you want.
02:16:58 For most of the time, simulations are the consequence of the argument,
02:17:03 not the core, the corpus being the most important
02:17:06 construct so that we don't have my whatever information
02:17:10 is closer to truth.
02:17:13 I love
02:17:17 Robert Lawrence KUHN.
02:17:19 I appreciate it.
02:17:20 It was a great podcast.
02:17:22 You need a flag of the day or
02:17:25 a bump of the flag or of flag flag.
02:17:30 Edgington
02:17:33 To be a
02:17:35 panic attack.
02:17:37 Yeah. What does that compassion.
02:17:39 What? Oh, I'm sorry. You using it?
02:17:41 I was still up.
02:17:43 This is the screen you usually see.
02:17:45 Oh, this is a screen I usually see.
02:17:47 I think it's just not plugged in.
02:17:49 I could see me.
02:17:51 Yeah, It's been a good podcast.
02:17:53 Thanks, Brady. Thanks, Draw.
02:17:56 I really had fun at the 6:00 timeslot.
02:17:58 We were probably never doing it
02:18:02 at this time ever again or in this format.
02:18:06 Probably.
02:18:07 I'm going to try to make it over next Monday.
02:18:09 What time's your lunch
02:18:11 hour at?
02:18:12 Yeah,
02:18:14 you don't know yet.
02:18:15 I don't know yet.
02:18:17 Uh, I don't know. We'll see.
02:18:19 Who knows how long it takes for a drug test to come clean?
02:18:22 Because.
02:18:23 Because I'm certain I peed clean today.
02:18:26 I thought you said you did, for sure.
02:18:28 I don't know how fast those.
02:18:29 They said I pass the test.
02:18:31 But you. You made it in the cup, right?
02:18:34 How was the first test? Can you feel this?
02:18:36 So they have to take that to a chemist lab?
02:18:38 I don't think so anymore.
02:18:39 They could just zap. It was the thing more.
02:18:42 I think some of the places have the test lab right on site, right?
02:18:44 Yeah. She put it in a big machine.
02:18:47 I Okay, so I put it in her purse.
02:18:50 Okay, well, I didn't get a call, so I don't have a job yet.
02:18:53 I've got a job offer.
02:18:54 I was given a pass test, a step is call me.
02:19:01 I thought you were starting tomorrow.
02:19:03 Oh, no.
02:19:03 I'll be back on the Snapple truck tomorrow.
02:19:06 What?
02:19:07 I. I like doing it.
02:19:08 That's great.
02:19:09 But. So wait, what are.
02:19:12 Oh, is.
02:19:13 Everyone else is confused as I am.
02:19:15 I think I am. See, did you drive today?
02:19:18 Yeah, I. Yeah, I'm in uniform currently.
02:19:21 I thought I was a little confused about that. Oh,
02:19:25 these are real, man.
02:19:27 So you just took a week off?
02:19:29 I didn't even take a week off.
02:19:31 What'd you do last week?
02:19:32 I worked well.
02:19:34 I had Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday off. They called me Wednesday.
02:19:36 I said, okay, I'll be in tomorrow.
02:19:37 And then that process repeated times.
02:19:41 They realized they just couldn't get by without Gary.
02:19:43 How could you resist? They need you now.
02:19:45 They said, Yeah,
02:19:46 I think that he's burned to the ground Wednesday because I'm really done.
02:19:51 Really done what?
02:19:53 After tomorrow.
02:19:55 Tomorrow's my fifth.
02:19:56 Last day, four at it.
02:19:58 Snapple, Snapple, Pepsi whatever. Dr. Pepper, whatever.
02:20:01 Dr. Pepsi.
02:20:02 Dr. Pepsi isn't your wife. Isn't your wife.
02:20:05 I was like, So you're my latest sponsor, Dr. Pepsi.
02:20:08 And you say your wife needed you. Yeah.
02:20:11 Yeah.
02:20:11 Well, my fans need me.
02:20:13 My my public word of the day is Dr.
02:20:16 Pepsi.
02:20:19 And I don't know as above.
02:20:21 So below.
02:20:24 Watch what I do here.
02:20:26 What would you do here?
02:20:28 Oh, yeah. Change it.
02:20:30 Yeah.
02:20:33 Oh, yes, yes.
02:20:35 Give me time to get home. Okay.
02:20:38 We can put next
02:20:41 fight on day.
02:20:50 We're kind of minor league. Yep.
02:20:52 I've been looking around.
02:20:53 We have, like, twice, many,
02:21:00 really a lot of people that
02:21:06 you got to hand it to for trying, like.
02:21:08 Well,
02:21:14 I did.
02:21:15 Okay.
02:21:21 Oh, no, I'm just thinking.
02:21:26 I forget what else I need for my.
02:21:28 No, I had to ask.
02:21:32 Have you ever tried in the music
02:21:39 and the word.
02:21:42 Yeah.
02:21:42 Compassion, health.
02:21:45 Mental health is divorce you don't go Kardos.
02:21:49 I'm sorry.
02:21:50 Special needs and no liquor.
02:21:52 Special needs.
02:21:53 That's what
02:21:57 I think.
02:21:57 When we we went off the rails. We did go to the races.
02:22:00 They were able to
02:22:01 I think your went way off the rails a couple of times the everybody the same.
02:22:06 I hope they respect that.
02:22:07 Yeah,
02:22:10 maybe I'm retarded.
02:22:12 Maybe they should have compassion for me.
02:22:14 Yeah, you.
02:22:16 Why help me?
02:22:25 He's the one that's not you or draw.
02:22:27 That's all. You and or the loser.
02:22:29 You the rest of your
02:22:34 which
02:22:39 pitch?
02:22:40 Yeah,
02:22:43 but pitch up
02:22:54 next week.
02:22:54 You look.